Jesus Christ—The Greatest Scientist (and Psychologist) who ever lived on earth! (page 2)

Simon

Thanks for visiting, but this is a discussion forum - we're not here to listen to your preaching.

Onager

Let neuroscience come with full explanation. At present neuroscientists have only partial view.

Science only has a partial view because that's as far as the evidence has led (so far). You may have a complete explanation but you have only achieved that by making stuff up. If we strip away all your fabrication and wishful thinking then the position we are left in is the same position that science currently holds.

You're like a poker player who when another player says "I bet £10" says, "I see your £10 and raise you 1,000 Pingu's.". Play with real money (verifiable facts) or don't play at all because I, for one, don't recognise the Pingu as viable currency.

Ireneus

DATA-DOG, You could be right because Lao-tzu used to say:

“Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. Be careful what you water your dreams with. Water them with worry and fear and you will produce weeds that choke the life from your dream. Water them with optimism and solutions and you will cultivate success. Always be on the lookout for ways to turn a problem into an opportunity for success. Always be on the lookout for ways to nurture your dream. At the center of your being you have the answer; you know who you are and you know what you want.

He who knows much about others may be learned, but he who understands himself is more intelligent. He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still. Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power. Who acts in stillness finds stillness in his life. If you look to others for fulfillment, you will never be truly fulfilled. Care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner. Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don’t resist them; that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like.If you realise that all things change, there is nothing you will try to hold on to. Rejoice in the way things are. When you realise there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you. If you are not afraid of dying, there is nothing you cannot achieve. Stop pushing yourself and feel gratitude and awe for what is. Your life is controlled by something far bigger and more significant than the petty details of your lofty aspirations.

In dwelling, be close to the land. In meditation, go deep in the heart. In dealing with others, be gentle and kind. In speech, be true. In ruling, be just. In business, be competent. In action, watch the timing. To attain knowledge, add things everyday. To attain wisdom, remove things every day. If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present. Peace is our original state.”

punkofnice

If we eliminate all the controversial and confusing verses attributed to Jesus

I stopped reading there because such a task is impossible without rubbishing the whole shebang.

No disrespect meant but all this highfalutin' gobbledegook is nothing more than empty words. Start on a false foundation and build an argument is just what the JWs do. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I'm out.

_Morpheus

Thanks for visiting, but this is a discussion forum - we're not here to listen to your preaching.

And sanity has been restored :)

Doug Mason

Ireneus,

When we read Mark, Matthew and Luke, we are discovering what each of those communities thought of their own local situation. None of those writers was an eyewitness. None of them heard or saw Jesus. Mark was written 40 years after Jesus lived; Matthew a further 15 years later, while Luke is later still.

Each writing group was making points against others of their own time. Matthew, for example was deeply antagonistic towards Pharisees, so they write a tirade against them (Chapter 23).

None of them was writing literal history. All Bible writers were creating religious stories to influence their own group and against their opposition. This is the feature and purpose of all religious publications, including in our own time. Propaganda.

So seek the reason for any statement they make in terms of their own group, rather than seeing statements being ascribed to Jesus as actually having been said by him.

Doug.

smiddy3

Jesus Christ -the greatest Scientist ? WTF ?

Vidiot

Jesus can't be a scientist.

His followers kind of avoid the whole peer-review process.

Plus, he never published anything before he turned thirty.

EverApostate

Jesus the Great Scientist - Yeah, that is why he followed the devil to the top of the mountain to view all the Kingdoms of the earth

Jesus the Great Psychologist - Yes, and that's why he advised his followers to love him more than they love their family, leave their family and follow him

Jesus Christ—The Greatest Scientist (and Psychologist) who ever lived on earth!