Leolaia,
I meant what I said in a complementary way, I don't think my mind could do what yours does. You must have a detective in you that drives you to solve the puzzle.
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Leolaia,
I meant what I said in a complementary way, I don't think my mind could do what yours does. You must have a detective in you that drives you to solve the puzzle.
Justin Martyr called the writings he was familiar with ,"memoirs". A later editor added the words, "which are the gospels". So as Leolaia pointed out it may and probably was not the Synoptics as we have them.
By the way Leolaia another great synopsis. Just stir in a little more radical veiw of Paul and a later date for the Gospels and we'd see eye to eye. (lol)
frankie....Thank you, indeed I like pursuing puzzles and seeing where certain lines of inquiry lead. I find historical and literary problems fascinating, especially ones that relate to the Bible, and there is just so much to study and research.... But you know, I have been spending too much time here (sorry), so you may see less posts of this type in coming weeks.
PP....You know, we definitely agree about a lot of things, but the Pauline issue is probably the main thing I don't agree with. I guess you're my Baur and I'm your Harnack.
True it's recorded that he would have been closer to fifty but it still does not solve the Jannaeus era christ figure being Yeshu son of Mary as one of the many figures used for the icon Jesus. There is still no historical account of such a fantasy christ by any of the historians not even Josephus who's found to be forged into later additions. The characters making up his image however are recorded, leading us to believe he is but an image of a man as per John Of Patmos REV 13 warnings. Even the character Paul seems to be converged of a few figures with similar accounts and influences, perhaps because shared names in an age of poor communications can easilly get confused for each other just as it does in our age of great communication. Just look and read Acts 13:6- on up Saul meets a man called Sergius Paulus also called Paul.With Paulus is his sorcerer friend named Bar(son)Jesus. Saul calls this 'Magician' (which is what 'Elymas' means)-'the son of the devil'. He's not talking about another person named Elymas he's still talking about his sorcer friend Bar Jesus who is an Elymas (magician).
Is Saul the Paul Rome promotes or is it Paulus named Paul who's sorcerer the son Jesus Rome promotes?
Makes thing pretty interesting when you ponder that question especially when Corinthians claims the apostles are teaching another Christ then he.
Another character used for the image of Paul could be taken from another man from Tarsus with similar stories used to make the character Paul, his name Apollonius of Tyana who's nickname was POL. Pol loved a mix of many cultures and is said to have brought back the myth of Krishna (Christos) to the region and had an extensive Library of mixed cultures and beliefs. This would fulfill the OT whereby the destroyer is called Abbadon or Apollyon (in greek).