every meeting there's a new plea for money?!

by purrpurr 17 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • purrpurr
    purrpurr

    Wow! I haven't been here for a while and everything's changed!

    Anyway I've been really noticing how at every meeting it seems there's yet another new thing that needs funding or another reminder to donate. It also seems that these moments when they ask for money are getting longer and longer and the language is getting more and more loaded? Before long they will be giving whole talks about needing money!

    Whatdo you think? And do you know of any other jw's noticing/ commenting on this?

  • Stealth
    Stealth

    This is a good thing.  I think when most mentally wake up, donating money to the org is the first thing that stops.

    I didn't donate a dime during the last two years of still attending.

    I hope the publishers are voting with their pocketbooks and they are becoming more desperate.  

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd
    The only real way that you can hurt them or force them to change, is by voting with your wallet and feet. 
  • kaik
    kaik
    I heard this complain from all my JWs relatives, which is one of the reason why they are dissatisfied with WT and doubt the organization, FDS, and JW society. My mom donates about $5 equivalent every week, and she was told that she is not spiritually very strong because she does not donate enough. This is in country where average pensions are $600 per month. She is very pissed and she told me several times that the demand for money is turning into extortion because she does not want to donate more. The same complains were from my sibling and my niece. My mom friend donated several thousands of her widow's inheritance and cashed her life savings to KH in distress.
  • Ignoranceisbliss
    Ignoranceisbliss
    Kaik,      How does anyone know how much your mom donates?   I have never heard of a hall where the donations weren't voluntary and secret.     
  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower

    $$GB$$/Faithful and Discreet Slave needs your cash folks to keep Jehovah's Chariot tuned up and ready to spin on a dime.

    Jehovah seems to be inspiring.His prophetic expression towards profit$$$. God money management team the GB seems to have reached a snag with all these child molestation lawsuits filed due to their exclusive to devotion to biblical rule of 2 witnesses to a molesting.

  • kaik
    kaik

    In my KH in Czech Republic as far I remember when JWs were legalized, the box was always at the door and was visible to everyone. Since my mom donates 100 Czech crown (only green bill) which is the lowest paper denomination, everyone could see what she donates. ($1 USD is 20 or so crowns, so she put about 5 dollars every week). 20 years ago she used (and I did as well) to donate 50 crowns every week. Last year and this years she repeatedly told me that elders and elderettes whined why she does not donate more, since she does not have any significant expenses (I paid her house off, thus she does not pay mortgage nor rent)...

    She does not want to donate more, because the district overseer drives expensive car, ask local congregation to take him and his b.tch wife to dinner, and ask for other field expenses. She thinks that he is lazy and takes advantage of congregation. She worked for 50 years, and does not feel to subsidize anyone living standard.

  • smiddy
    smiddy

    Wasnt their a quote from pastor russell in " Zions WatchTower And herald Of Christs presence" words to the effect that they would never beg or solicit for money ? that if the voluntary contributions dried up , it would be a sign Jehovah has said thats enough ? or some such thing.?

    smiddy

  • prologos
    prologos

    kalk: good for your mother's reaction.

    I too decided, I will stop contributing until my lifestyle reaches that of the top "full time unpayed clergy" of the wt.  

  • kaik
    kaik

    Smiddy, I do not know when it started, but in past two years I hear complains from my JW family that WT needs more money and donations. My mom often points out that 20 years ago nobody asked her; but back then we had donated a lot of money so we can build our first KH, which was build from our local contributions. Since my mom contributes for decades and surely every week when she is on program, she felt it insulted when elderette asked her why she puts only 100 crowns (which is the smallest paper bill) when she could afford to put more. All my JW relatives who are in different congregations complained that the donations are demanded and required instead of a time, when they were voluntary as I remember. I left the cult in April of 1994, so I do know only the religion who was at that time, which surely evolved into organized group with well paid priesthood.

    I think the money is the biggest reason behind awakening of both of my sibling and my mom, instead flip flopping doctrines, and all other BS with JW religion. At least both of them feel that WT is not right on this. Money is something that people relate to it more on personal level,than 7 times of 360 nonsense and parousia, and this shakes more in their beliefs than all other nonsense.

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