"The Four Presidents of the Watchtower Society" (page 3)

garybuss

Dansk, don't you think the "customer" is really the congregations, not the householder? That's why the corporation does not want to talk to individual Witnesses when they call . . . . because "they" are not the corporation's customer. The individual Witnesses are the customers of the congregations. Then the individual Witnesses collect donations from their customers, the householders to be forwarded to the corporation. This is a pyramid marketing corporation isn't it?

Dansk

Gary,

don't you think the "customer" is really the congregations, not the householder?

Absolutely! As Blondie points out, no JW actually likes to ask for money. Being right gullible idiots at the time, not only did Claire and I make a deed of covenant to cover our receiving literature, but we also made extra donations in the KH or at Assemblies - PLUS we put any donations we received for literature into the boxes as well! Others did likewise. The Borg is making an absolute fortune out of its gullible members.

God bless the French for hitting the corporation for tax evasion!

Ian

garybuss

Dansk, They have to have made a fortune, they display a fortune with impunity. No attempt at all to hide the vast wealth.

I stood on dirty street corners when I was 7 years old selling their magazines. We had bags printed with Watchtower 5 cents on one side and Awake! 5 cents, on the other. Dirt blew on us and it was cold and windy. Trash laid in the gutters and people spit on the sidewalks were we stood. Our parents were so proud. We almost never gave a magazine away. I think we paid 3 cents each at the hall and that was due when we picked up the mags. During that time, we were re-sellers.

We had swing out charts with big numbers at the hall and once a month and when the circuit servant came, we would get an ass chewing about how poor Christians we were for not peddling more literature produced by the group owners.

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over just writing it.

minimus

Ahhh, Living in the good old days, huh? JWS DON'T SELL MAGAZINES ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a businessman. I know what salespeople do, how they work. If JWS are the "salespeople" of the WBTS, then the outlook is indeed bleak. JWs might be contributors to the "world wide work", they might donate time and money in the local congregation, etc. but that DOES NOT make them "salespeople".

family_man

I'm still on the fence. From a business standpoint I don't see any real sales happening. I agree that the product is paradise, but the "donations only" policy is hard to argue against. The members being the customer's is a good explaination - my wife's sister donates 10% monthly - but this is true of many other non JW religions. This makes it hard to prove that it is a paradise for profit scheme...

In the meantime - luckily there are many other smoking guns in WT's history for somone reveal the truth to a loved one...this is what I have to rely on ...

garybuss

I think the corporate image is the primary product, the literature is the secondary product. The literature is the focal point along with the cash product. The promise of immortality keeps the people working . . . . actually the fear of reality, of aging, and death is what keeps them working. As long as they keep their heads down and keep working, they can avoid facing the reality of aging and illness and death. More than a few avoid reality right into poverty and death.

minimus

Gary, there's no money being made selling immortality. Anyone that believes "selling books" is what JWs do NOW is wrong.

sf

Gary,

Some just don't get it...the dynamics of what you are conveying here. Some are thick too.

Many DO get it and understand fully what you are conveying. Perfectly.

Many (ACT) 'AS IF' they don't get it. Why? Do I really need to draw up a blueprint as to the why? It's pretty obvious, if you know what I mean. And I think ya do, sir.

sKally

Surreptitious

When and if the occasional publisher does ask for a donation (and the fanatical dubs always do by the way), the amount is usually enough to compensate handsomely for those that don't ask. (Most householders think in terms of five and ten dollar bills.) This money is of course carried in a "special envelope" straight to the Kindom Hall and placed in the box clearly marked for "The Worldwide Work". Since the publisher already "donated" (and he too thinks in terms of five and ten dollar bills by the way) when he picked up his inventory at the literature counter, there is in effect a double donation going on. Donations that consistently amount to much more than if a mere dollar was directly asked for.

garybuss

I got the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature by reading the history of the corporation in the literature produced by the corporation.

I got the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature by reading the book 30 Years A Watch Tower Slave.

I got the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature by reading Crisis Of Conscience.

I got the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature by reading Apocalypse Delayed.

I get the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature from reading the 4 Presidents book.

I got the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature by being a Witness and living the life from age 7 till 30.

I got the sense the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation is a business by nature and not a religion by the way the Witness people treated me and my family over the last 30 years.

All I can to is write the facts and my experiences. I believe I could easily prove in court that the Watch Tower Inc. is a business.

Good thread RR, Thanks for starting it. GaryB

"The Four Presidents of the Watchtower Society"

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