Family Coat Of Arms: Does Anybody Have Them?

by ColdRedRain 21 Replies latest jw friends

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  Abaddon

  There's two answers to the question. As far as the Royal College of Arms is concerned, very few people can lay claim to a coat of arms. Having the same surname as that a coat of arms is related to means zip; you have to be the right sort of direct decendant.

  But they can go stuff themselves!

  My family name is Williams. There are several coats-of-arms for that surname, and the gap between their being granted and reliable records means it's quite hard to prove one has the right to use it. This is probably NOT my Williams coat-of-arms, it's from the wrong part of Wales for a start and in all liklihood my Williams side of the family has no coat-of-arms.

  My paternal grandmother was a Hawkins. It's quite possible but not certain that the family are descended from the Hawkins family of Plymouth, in which case the coat-of-arms is that of Sir John Hawkins;

  The lion and the circles ('bezants') are gold, the waves are silver and blue, the backgound is black. The square in the top left is the badge of a Spanish town in Central America that Sir John riaded; interestingly the scallop and palmers staves are similar to that of the Palmer coat of arms Xandria posted; that coat-of-arms is a great example of the play-on-words frequently seen in coats-of-arms; Palmer was an old word for Pilgrim and staves and scallops were symbols associated with pilgrims.

  The crest is the shameful bit, as SIr John had the dubious distinction of being the Englishman who started the slave trade; it's a bound slave, and the family have various bits and bobs (a tankard and a ring) with the crest on it.

  If we're not decended from that Hawkins (I can get the family tree back to 1700 but then it's guess work), then this is the other Hawkins crest, dating from way earlier;

  It's often seen with a normal cross (i.e. not on the diagonal), but this is just because many people drawing the pictures wouldn't know a St. Andrews cross if it bit them.
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  scootergirl

  

  Of my geneology, this is what I found.
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  Englishman

  Xandria,

  Your last emblem seemed familiar:

  Englishman.
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  Satans little helper

  I haven't followed the genealogy of this coat of arms so it may not be related but here it is.

  My mother's side of the family had a coat of arms and the family in Cornwall was huge so tracing the lineage would be a monster of a job, but the coat of arms was a blue background with 3 blackbirds (Tinks)
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  ozziepost

  Now let me see....yep, I have a coat...well, I think I do....and I've got two arms.

  So does that count?
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  Xandria

  Palmer was an old word for Pilgrim and staves and scallops were symbols associated with pilgrims.

  To a point Palmer is known as the word for Pilgrim. Also the Knights of the Crusade would cut down palm limbs, as a sign of victory. Hence the name Palmer(s). I know there is a distant relation to Lord Palmer, in England. Some where in the ancestry there~ there is a relation to the house of Windsor.

  Alexander~ is a direct relation on my husband's mother's side. Earl of Stirling, etc. They go back quite a ways. They came originally from Scotland to Ireland and from there to America.

  Brown(s) ~ is my mother's side.

  Jaime~ is Spain goes back to the 1500's. Kings of Spain~ Barcelona, etc.

  Yes, Englishman you have seen that Rampant Lion before. But it is also part of the English / Scottish coats of arms. Especially under certain houses.

  X.
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  Badger

  Mulan: The bleeding hand is a common Northern Irish icon. When Claiming land for themselves, some knights/nobles would cut off their hand on the boand and throw it ashore...thereby being the first to lay claim to it.
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  Mulan

  Mulan: The bleeding hand is a common Northern Irish icon. When Claiming land for themselves, some knights/nobles would cut off their hand on the boand and throw it ashore...thereby being the first to lay claim to it.

  Yuck. I don't think Mom's family can lay claim legally, to that coat of arms, but their name was Riley.
  

  The Maxfield one is ours though, and I have documentation for that one.

  This is one for my mother's mother's family. I also have documentation for it. This is the family that one of Princess Diana's ancestor's was a member, making her great great grandmother a cousin to my grandmother

  

  This one is my father's mother's family (documented as being awarded to George Abell, who was born in 1559). (Abell.............is the name, a few generations back) Grover Cleveland is in this family, and was a cousin of my grandmother.

  
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  No Apologies

  Could someone enlighten me as to what the heck you are all discussing??

  I mean where did you find these? What do you mean by legal? This is not like the "Name a Star" scam I take it?

  No Apologies

  (of the orphaned class)
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  Moridin