Using the JWs fear of apostates to your advantage.

by Stealth 17 Replies latest jw experiences

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  Stealth

  Three years ago, I decided that I would no longer support the JW religion. Having family in the "truth" as many of you know, can complicate the leaving process as the JWs use the threat of DF/DA and loss of family as a weopon to try to control you.

  I decided to fight fire with fire. I let one person know, that I didn't want to be a JW any longer but did not want to be DA or DF because of family reasons. I just wanted them to leave me alone. I told this person that if they leave me alone, they will get no trouble out of me and I would leave them alone. However, if they failed to leave me alone, that I would launch an apostate assault campain on the congregation that they had never seen before in their history. I said that I would not stop until I got 10 persons or families to leave, and that I would focus on the young in the congregation.

  Three years later, not one peep from the peeps, never a single visit from any elders, no invites to memorial, no phone calls from anyone wondering where I have been.

  Fighting fire with fire worked in my case, and seems to have put enough fear in them that they have left me alone. Has anyone else tried this approach?
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  Stefanie

  That was a good idea. I used to cry because I had no family in the "truth". Now its my biggest support system. I know about the fear thing. One day while out in service I met this woman who said she believed everything about JW except about the 144,000. When we left the pioneer "sister" I was working with said "she is an apostate we need to mark the address and warn the brothers". The woman was really nice and polite. What a hatefull way to deal with people we were trying to preach to!
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  sf

  Love the assault strategy. Thanks for the inspiration.

  Incidently, they just left my hood without knocking on MY door. Everyone else's home was 'worked' but mine. LOLOLOL

  Could it possibly be that it was because I plastered both the new U.N. letter (printed up with the letterhead) and Silentlambs "The Worldwide Problem of Child Abuse and Jehovah's Witnesses on my front door with pink highlighter?

  LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

  Last night I sat and printed out envelopes with each community kh in my COUNTY and elclosed in each of them the DPI letter. One is being sent to my childhood cong as well.

  It's a great feeling being armed with The Real Truth and shoving it right in their faces when they dare set foot upon my porch. I doubt they even came up the steps.

  LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

  sKally, INOCULATION KLASS-ACTION
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  shotgun

  Stealth..did you make that comment in front of JW family members or was it privately made to the elders?

  I'd like to try it but not in front of the wife..it would only confirm my evil apostate status to her!

  I have thought of using the same tactic because I have two different local congregation lists with all the publishers mailing addresses and telephone numbers for leverage!
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  Winston Smith :>D

  I said that I would not stop until I got 10 persons or families to leave, and that I would focus on the young in the congregation.

  Oh, that's pure evil genius!

  I love it.

  Although I don't know if I'd have the time or energy doing it
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  shotgun

  Your right Paul it would interfere with your porn time...make time for the more important things or thing!
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  Winston Smith :>D

  Your right Paul it would interfere with your porn time

  Should you really poke fun at my mission to bring the WTS down with porn,

  ...since you are a beneficiary of all my diligent work?

  I can stop those emails you get showing you prospective replacement wives at anytime
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  garybuss

  
  I thought of doing that and I have enough dirt that I probably could have blackmailed them but I couldn't see how I could make a deal with them and also warn the community and help the ex-JW community. If I stayed silent as well as anonymous I would have missed out on knowing some of the best people I have ever known. I had so much contempt for the Witness people I really could not make a deal with them. Plus I didn't want to play by their rules.
  
  As far as Witness relatives shunning me, I wanted to know who were my friends and who valued a book publishing corporation more than me. Those who shun me because I don't read the same books as they do are out of my life and they are not welcome back.
  
  Another dissenter was silenced. I'd say the Watch Tower won. After all, that's all they want, silence the dissenters. The shunning is just one way to keep members from listening. My audience has been the non Witnesses and former Witnesses. They can have the active ones. I don't care about them. Just my $0.02 GaryB
  
  
  
  
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  Stealth

  Shotgun:
  

  Stealth..did you make that comment in front of JW family members or was it privately made to the elders?

  I said it to a MS that I knew would carry it to the elders and one who knew I was serious. This may not be as easy to do with a spouse living with you who is a JW.

  Gary,

  If I stayed silent as well as anonymous I would have missed out on knowing some of the best people I have ever known.

  That is what is so great about the internet, you can remain somewhat anonymous yet, not be silenced. I have met some great people also.

  I had so much contempt for the Witness people I really could not make a deal with them. Plus I didn't want to play by their rules.

  This is where we differ. I don't have much contempt for the Witness people. I was one once. I think most are simply blinded by their leaders. I don't feel that I played by their rules, otherwise they would be here making shepharding calls, or looking to DF me. They are not, so they are playing by my rules IMO.

  As far as Witness relatives shunning me, I wanted to know who were my friends and who valued a book publishing corporation more than me. Those who shun me because I don't read the same books as they do are out of my life and they are not welcome back.

  That is easy to say, once we are on the other side. While what you say is very true, 99.9% of witnesses can't see the issue that clearly. They never see it as choosing between a book publishing company vs a family member. Did you while you were a JW? By being able to keep the lines of communication open with my own family, I have been able to help 5 out of 6 come to realize this is NOT god's organization, and yet they don't shun me.

  Another dissenter was silenced. I'd say the Watch Tower won. After all, that's all they want, silence the dissenters. The shunning is just one way to keep members from listening. My audience has been the non Witnesses and former Witnesses. They can have the active ones. I don't care about them. Just my $0.02 GaryB

  Yes, I have been silenced at a local level at this time. This does not mean I am completly silenced. Who knows, maybe even this post might help someone to leave on their terms.

  I don't care about the active ones either, that is my whole point. They, are so concerned about loosing the active ones that they are willing to leave me alone. My priorities are... Me, my kids, my extended family, my friends..... and somewhere at the bottom of the list is active JWs.

  I simply used their fear to achieve what I wanted for my family without going down a road that leaves me full of contempt for a blinded misguided people.

  S
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  garybuss

  Stealth, you wrote:

  That is easy to say, once we are on the other side. While what you say is very true, 99.9% of witnesses can't see the issue that clearly. They never see it as choosing between a book publishing company vs a family member. Did you while you were a JW? By being able to keep the lines of communication open with my own family, I have been able to help 5 out of 6 come to realize this is NOT god's organization, and yet they don't shun me.

  I was as dumb a Witness as there ever was. I was never confronted with having to choose the corporation over a relative, but I am sure I would have. I was confronted with the blood medical treatment issue and I fell apart like a two dollar suitcase in the rain and I sat there and watched my wife die from lack of proper treatment.
  
  I was maximum stupid ex Witnesses. I let my Witness wife read Watchtower literature to my sons at bed time and take them to meetings. I let Witnesses in my house to study with my son. I let my father in the house and gave him free access to my sons. The Witness people and my father taught my sons to shun me. Now that I look back on it all I see the plot and the plan and it all worked because I allowed it all to happen.
  
  My bad luck was being raised by Witness infected parents. My stupidity was marrying a Witness woman and having children with her. My HUGE stupidity was allowing Witnesses access to my family AFTER I had left. It seems like I get dumber as I get older. Since the shunning started (18 years AFTER I left the group association), my war began and my de-Towering started. I have had an incredible education these last 12 years and it continues.
  
  I can't think of one reason why anybody should be like me. Glad it all works for you. GaryB