Do any of you now believe in the hellfire hell of eternal physical torment?

by True North 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • dustyb
    dustyb
    Hmmm hell, eternal, fire, hmmm Well sometimes I think it's hell when I visit my mother in law, but it's for sure not eternal

    Seedy

    great minds think alike, heheheheh. they don't call Missouri (misery) the show-me-state for nothing. i'll show-you that its hell......

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I think it's possible that there is something like hell, or maybe many different types. But, it's purely self made,ie, spirits of deceased ones impose it onto themselves. There is no judging god up there. The condition is not eternal.

    SS

  • Stefanie
    Stefanie
    Mybe its a gag maybe its not but I swore from that day to stop torturing animals, having sex with crack whores, and stop doing the "dope".

    muuahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • Rabbit
    Rabbit

    Naw, I still believe in a loving God, I don't have all the answers. But, I don't believe God could be capable of that kind of cruel, continuous torture for ever and ever...and for what? Failing a test, that according to the Bible, only 3 (perfect) people have been given...and 2/3rds of them did not pass !

    This...is I think, one of the very few things the dubs have gotten right.

    [Edited to say: My X wife (JW) could be considered as "Hell on Earth."] lol

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    You've been in the wtbts - but still question the existence of a hell ?

    Hell is a prison - and there are gates

    • your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies
    • Wisdom is too high for a fool; in the gate he does not open his mouth.
    • the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction
    • To him the gatekeeper opens; the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out
    • "I persecuted this Way to the death, binding and delivering to prison both men and women" (Paul, using the law literally - burdens)

    When you are going to the court ( looking for God ) with your accuser ( the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down), be diligent to figure it out along the way, lest the accuser take you to the judge and the judge hand you over to the guards (eg. the elders / cong .) and they put you into prison (hell).

    Trying to earn your 'living' can inevitably get you put in prison, if you're 'poor' and end up getting accused of something.

    Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; it is Moses who accuses you, on whom you set your hope.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Hell, Yes! but hellfire, No!

    Christians believe that hell is eternal separation from God. That's it. Period.

  • True North
    True North
    Christians believe that hell is eternal separation from God.

    So, God practices shunning? But without hope of reinstatement?

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    I agree with Saint Satan on this one. The only hell there is is the one we make for ourselves. I'm sure that can be pretty painful, but it is certainly not eternal.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Re: Do any of you now believe in the hellfire hell of eternal physical torment? No never have and never will. Never believed it before I became a JW, never believed while I was an active JW and still do not believe it now -- I truly believe with all my heart it to be an even more obnoxious and God dishonoring doctrine than the Trinity -- Plato at his best.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    ( creeping in cos I know I am going to get booted off )

    Yes I believe scripture talks more about Hell than anything else !No I dont believe it is a fire ( except the fire that Moses bush was burning in, the bush remained the fire didnt hurt it, I also think it is a "cutting Off" In fact I would think it would be like what I suffered when they kicked me out of the WAtchtower Kingdom.... I cried, felt God had abandoned me, wished I could kill myself,Felt wicked ,evil, bad, just because I couldnt see Jesus come invisabley in 1914. Boy it was a rough time, Until Jesus knocked at MY door( heart) & Thank God I opened. So Yes I do believe it will be a "not nice place to be" But I am not going there I know!!! because even though I am a "cracked pot" ( or as the scriptures call me a "broken vessel") I believe I am adopted by God... I was told even in the Law of the Land you cannot give away adopted children ( you can your own) So I will put my trust in the one who Created ALL!!!!!!>>>>>> Jesus!!!

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