Not the individual JW's but the WTBTS, the religion...definetly yes.
Do you really want to see JWs wiped out?
by ScoobySnax 36 Replies latest jw friends
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heathen
If it weren't for the fact they are non violent and peaceful I would definately say yes . I don't care about the fact they aren't patriotic but as long as people can congregate without violence I don't see a reason to condemn them . I think they are dysfunctional in their beliefs and behavior but I think the same can be said about all religionists. I don't like the mind control and manipulation of it's members any but as we see they have been changing alot of the hard core doctrine to making it a matter of conscience , I guess we will see what the outcome of all of this is if we live long enough , I think things will get very interesting in the near future regarding religion .
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blacksheep
No. I'd rather them not go out with a bang. Just sort of fade into oblivion.
Oh, wait, they ARE pretty much in oblivion. Always really have been.
Once you're out a while, you begin to understand that.
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seeitallclearlynow
NOT AT ALL!!! I'm actually very fond of many Jehovah's Witnesses, and not just the many who are my own family! I actually have strong tugs at my heartstrings often when I see a brother or sister or someone who seems like they might be a Witness. Many, many of them have very lovable traits and I do love them for their endurance and faith and goodness.
Many of them don't really look down on the whole rest of the world of mankind and most don't really want to shun others as they are required to do. The ones who do look down on non JWs and on other "lesser ones" within the congregations are not lovable to me, but still I have no desire for them to be "wiped out" at all. And I don't believe they are going to be.
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got my forty homey?
To be honest I would like to see all religons in this world wiped out. After 9/11 and the Catholic pedophile scandals, the Branch Davidians, the people who killed themselves to catch the comet (1997), Jim Jones, The Japan subway gassing, my personal horror of the JW's I really do not see any purpose to religon. Just eliminate all religon in the world and let people worship in the privacy of thier homes.
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Fe2O3Girl
Phantom Stranger said (on another thread) bold mine:
I'll again suggest that the best way to limit the growth of the WTS and of groups like it is to dedicate yourself to making the world and our society a better place. The WTS doesn't exist because of the logic of its arguments or the factualness of its statements - it exists because of the emotional appeal of its thematic message to people in emotional pain and need. As long as people feel a need for such emotional support from any source, there will be a WTS, and groups like it.
Here Phantom makes an excellent point, that the WTS is not the only high control group. If, hypothetically, all congregations of JWs disappeared tomorrow, many JWs would end up in similarly high control groups the day after.
I would like to see a world where nobody needed to have some external authority telling them that everything will be alright as long as you drive the right kind of car, listen to the right kind of music, watch the right movies, turn up at a certain place at specified times, or pretend to have driven around for the right length of time.
Since that is not going to happen, all we can hope for is that high control groups will be benevolent to their devotees, not grinding them down with unrelenting demands.
And be here for the sorry souls dragging themselves out from under the grindstone.
Outlawing these organisations is counter productive - it does nothing to release the captives, it just adds another burden and indignity to their lives.
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avengers
I know, love and care about many people who are JWs. So no, I wouldn't want the people wiped out because the vast majority of those I know are good and decent people who truly want to live good and decent lives.
Now, the structure/organization that they follow is what I differ with.
My thought exactly.
The GB should go along with the Watchtower. Who was it in the old days who said: "Let my people go"?
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Puternut
No,
Most witnesses are meek people. The fact that they are eagerly following the guidance of the WT shows that they are humble. Many have had rough lives, and came into the borg, to find a degree of peace and comfort. The problem is, that the GB and the writing committee, is very subtle about contolling a person's mind. Once that mind has been closed, they run with it.
The witnesses as a group should not be wiped out, they are acting according what they 'know' what is right. It is the GB, that should be df'd and disciplined for what they have done and are doing. But I don't feel that even they should be wiped out. Wiping out doesn't solve anything. Correction does.
Puternut
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Shutterbug
I uncomfortable with the term "wiped out." There are people who should be dealt with severely, but wiped out, as in eliminated, I don't think so. Too many times in history people have been "wiped out" simply because they didn't agree with the ruling powers at the time. Not good. Bug
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ignored_one
I prefer the term 'helped out'.
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Ignored One.