How do they know? (page 3)

Tuesday

I apologize I just can't focus after the picture of George Michael....*shudder*, my mommy always said "they know that they're going to heaven". On a different note just a bit does anyone know of anyone spilling the wine at the memorial? Or spilling the crackers (though that wouldn't nearly be as cool as spilling the wine)?

Elsewhere

My mother and her father both "professed to be of the anointed". It's very simple: You just know. [PERIOD] and no one can question you because you are "under the infuence of Jehover's Spirit"

Basically, anyone can suddenly and inexplicably be Anointed and the elders have no say-so in the matter. Considering that 1935 passed a looong time ago the elders are likely to sit you down and try to talk you out of it... but if you stick to you guns and keep saying that you are confident they have no way to stop you.

They treat rogue Anointed people the same way they treat child molesters... they just look the other way and "leave it in Jehover's hands".

Swan

There was a Watchtower article that explained this but I know not where.
It says they KNOW ......" by a dominant 'mental inclination', to go to heaven. In other words......these annointed ones "think different" than one does of the Great Crowd who's dominant mental inclination is to live on earth.

Despite what the Watchtower implies here, they are not born this way. Their mental inclination is a choice! They could change their orientation back to the earthly hope if they really wanted to. Through prayer and meditation anyone can change their dominant mental inclination, though it would be difficult, just as they could change the color of their skin. (Zion's Watch Tower 1900 October 1 p. 296-297, Watch Tower Feb. 15, 1904 p.52-53 )

Tammy

Elsewhere

Hell, if Michael Jackson can do it... anyone can!

BluesBrother

If my memory is correct , I can recall an expression in print something lilke "They have within themselves the unmistakeable evidence of the heavenly calling "

Our Cong Servant in my childhood used to say that the calling was unmistakeable, yet he could not describe it in words to those of the great crowd

Nowadays I have to favour the more pragmatic arguments put forward in this thread

XQsThaiPoes

I know that I'd rather die than live permanently in heaven even thought I don't know what heaven is like. I came across a revelation that what if we misinterpreted the earthly calling. What if it is damnation to earth. Think of it the 144k rule as kings and priest the GC live eternally as slaves under God's totalitarian holy order. Revelations says that there will be a resurrection of the wicked that will also be serving in this "new order". The 144k get judged once and the GC twice! This is hell with out the ungodly torture! So I kind of have a half empty view of the "paradise". Maybe that?s why "true christians" have such an aversion to JWs they don't like the Idea of trumpeting the heralds of deliberately being eternally damned.

Stefanie

I knew an older woman who professed to be anointed. She was in her 50s and raised in the troof. She knew the scriptures very well, but she was damn grouchy, she fell asleep at meetings, she was always eating.

I didnt like her much.

boa

at some point in my exit from the org, i started to figure that my childhood/youth/young manhood religion i thought was clear and uncluttered by false religion actually contained many 'mysteries' like catholicism

i once read 'the two babylons', a book you once, not so long ago, could order from the wts (as well as the 8 translation so-called christian greek scriptures) and it discussed at length the mysteries of the religious past

the 'spirit reckoning with their spirit' thus, they KNOW, has always been a hard one for me to understand/swallow and is another jw 'mystery' imo.

hope to get to the bottom of that one someday, but actually don't really presently care that much.

I guess i'm still at the 'its all bs' stage right now and am trying to reset the hard drive on this stuff

boa

most i have known are gentle, nice people, though that is very few. one of them was about 30, at bethel, and a genius (so they say), and a real source of question for many

got my forty homey?

Its like trying to explain how's it feel to be a boy or girl!

cyber-sista

In my old congo there were 3 women who claimed ot be of the annointed--also a couple of men I knew over the years. These ones were all in their 40s. I know that two of the women had bad marriages and one sister pointed out to me she had known other sisters like this in previous congos--her thought were they wanted to go to heaven to escape their husbands. These ones who claimed to be of the annointed were on some strange mental trips and were not living very balanced lives either. I think that knowing you are one of the annointed is no other than a strange form of mental illness.

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