The New European Constitution: the Last Battle for Britain?

by Realist 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • Realist
    Realist

    The New European Constitution: the Last Battle for Britain?

    No nation has successfully invaded Britain since the Norman Conquest in 1066. In effect, the European Union may be about to do what the Spanish Armada, Napoleon and Hitler attempted but failed. Many do not realize that the identity and sovereignty of the grand old British nation may be in serious jeopardy. What is the true biblical perspective?

    ok what is up with that? is that a common view in britain?

  • a wee scots lass
    a wee scots lass

    Hi Realist,

    Many in the UK today think that they are giving up Freedom by signing up to Euro ect. Big debate coming and public will get to vote on it.

    L

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Realist,

    Thing is, we don't really regard ourselves as Europeans.

    We actually believe that we are still the worlds super power. A bit like looking in the mirror, still feeling 25 and wondering who the hell is the old geezer looking back at you.

    Englishman.

  • core
    core

    Think Tony (Blair) has pushed his luck with this as when (years away) the Referendum is held most I know will use the opportunity to give TB two fingers and the same to the EU which has brought nothing but trouble to the UK and its people/businesses - no we have more in common with the US than with Europe (notwithstanding my view that Bush is a war criminal - as is Blair)

  • Realist
    Realist

    hello guys!

    thanks for your replies!

    core,

    in what sense has the EU damaged britain?

    Englishman,

    cool statement! it would be great if everyone could see his own country as neutral as you do!

    a wee scots lass,

    yes i noticed that! why is britain more concerned about loosing some freedoms that the other members?

  • core
    core

    Britain has suffered from EU membership as a result of the rules aimed at enhancing the farming communities of France and Germany (CAP) at the expense of the rest of the EU - Britain is a net contributor to the EU - it pays more in than it gets out - also the mind-numbing regulations ( I believe several thousand a month) which emanate from the EU are rigorously applied in the UK whereas from what I can see in France etc the authorities take little notice of such things

    Britain now has few local family Bakers / Butchers etc etc - not just because of Tesco and the supermarkets but because of EU legislation -

    1 example

    A couple of years a go a Health Inspector ordered a butcher to stop using his wooden "block" to cut meat on as it was not "banned" by EU dictat (not UK Parliamentary Law but EU directive) - at great cost the block was replaced with new plastic surface - which the butcher knew would be unsuitable but it complied with the law - recently the same inspector visited and ordered the buther to buy "a wooden block" as that was now the approved surface for working on - the inspector was reminded of her earlier visit but could not see how ridiculous this was. Incidentally - all butchers and many other traders are not allowed to have premises in which room corners are not curved (for cleaning) and thousands of bakeries closed after that was applied - bet no French Bakery worried about the rules though......

    Legislation such as "The Working Time Directive" requires employers to keep copious records (for years) about who worked when and for how long - what breaks they had etc etc etc

    Now another regulation from the EU bans traders accepting cash in amounts greater that 10,000 euros as a money laundering protection - customers who use large amounts of cash have to present their EU Passport and the trader must copy this and report any suspicions to the Police. Accountants must report clients to the Police if they discover trivial errors in company accounts - all rules from Brussels (the EU)

    Latest is that any UK employer must see the Passposrt of all new employees and make a copy - if he does not then he faces 7 years in prison.

  • metatron
    metatron

    There is the real possibility that countless people will be forced to suffer and die if they accept

    the rule of the EU. Why?

    Because you stand to lose all control over nutritional supplements. Drug companies will be

    indirectly given total dominance over what you can put in your body. This is no joke for people

    with special needs. Furthermore, once this centralized control is established (as the FDA

    in the US is attempting), I have NO doubt that attempts will be made to discredit or suppress

    ANY treatment that slows down or reverses aging.

    I have watched countless helpful treatments get trashed - or "buried" in the US because

    of corrupt influence from the drug industry. (Graviola is a shocking example).

    Don't let them take away your freedom.

    metatron

  • dh
    dh
    Thing is, we don't really regard ourselves as Europeans.

    I'll second that, though the UK is turning more into a melting pot of different cultures than ever before, it is distinctively British and NOT European.

  • tdogg
    tdogg

    Sigh...so many troubles to consider when trying to unite states, good luck EU. Hmmm...United States of Europe, kinda catchy, but oh...the copyright infringements...better stick with European Union.

  • Realist
    Realist

    core,

    its very interesting to here yor side of the story. in germany, france etc. you usually hear exactly the opposite (britain pays to little according to the rules, britain got too much special deals, the costs for the mad cow disease desaster etc.).

    since both sides have opposing views one could assume that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

    over all i think the unification of europe is the only way to go. it has marked the longest peace period in europe.

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