A video denies evolution

by opusdei1972 10 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  opusdei1972

  I found the following video not unbiased and with an agenda behind it. However, I am mainly interested in the argument presented against "The Law of superposition". This Law or Principle is is a foundational principle of sedimentary stratigraphy which states that: 

  Sedimentary layers are deposited in a time sequence, with the oldest on the bottom and the youngest on the top.

  However, the video uses particularly examples so as to invalidate this principle used for dating  fossils. So my question is if you know of some reference which addresses this creationist argument?
  

  
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XvbbE_VwC8
  
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  cofty

  Not going to watch an hour and a quarter of bullshit.

  What specifically is the "evidence"?
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  opusdei1972

  ....I am only interested in those examples used by the video in which they "show" that different layers can be formed simultaneously...I don't think that it could be a general case, but I prefer to read if someone has addressed this argument before
  
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  opusdei1972

  ...you can see it since the minute 20:44
  
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  cofty

  Here you go...
  
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  Village Idiot

  The book Science and Earth History: The Evolution/Creation Controversy addresses that point. It is a large 500 page encyclopedia of Creationist arguments and their rebuttals and I highly recommend it in spite of its price tag.

  The argument on the issue of geologic layers being 'out of sequence' is answered there along with illustrations. Basically it has to do with tectonic forces lifting up a segment of the terrain then pushing it sideways on top of the other layers. Further erosion will then produce a cross section where old layers are on top of new layers. It's much easier to understand with the illustrations.

  As for the fossilized trees that are vertical (also covered in the book with very telling illustrations) they are basically buried by mud flows from localized heavy flooding. In some areas you find fossilized trees in multiple layers one on top of the other indicating that there was a tendency in that region for massive flooding or volcanic eruptions every so often. These multiple floodings would not correlate with a single flooding event per Genesis.

  Again, I highly recommend the book for its comprehensive, detailed and understandable arguments and proofs. 
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  redvip2000

  in which they "show" that different layers can be formed simultaneously.

  That they can be formed simultaneously? wow, i'd like to hear that explanation.

  I'm sure it's something stupid like:

  "well logically we can compare this to a sandwich. First you put the Salami, then cheese, then tomato and finally the lettuce. But sometimes, you can just drop all of them at the same time on the bun. So there you go, layers can be formed simultaneously".

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Village Idiot

  Sorry double post.
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  Finkelstein

  Just a of bunch amateur geological theory based from a lack of knowledge of tidal erosion observed upon sedimentary strata.  

  The Mount St. Helen's volcanic eruption was about the stupidest point of the video.

  Its so unlike creationists to be intellectually dishonest and ignorant on subject matters.  

   
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  opusdei1972

  Thanks  for your comments, I will read your suggested readings......a friend of mine sent me this morning that video and asked me for the validity of the arguments,  so I quickly answered him that I noticed that  the guys in the video are trying to invalidate the dating methods on account of the Flood, but I could not answer the arguments against "The Law of superposition". But I am sure that those guys in the video are of those Evangelicals who wants to prove that the Earth is young and that Yahweh created all living beings in 6 days. This is the agenda behind the video.