Tubal pregnancy.....here's a mind-boggler......

by goddess_baal 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • galaxy7
    galaxy7
    Oh yeah, but they also claim that unless an infant breaths through its nostrils s/he will not be resurected

    Do you remember the magazine you found that in?

    With a tubal pregnancy you usually dont have time to run around enquiring of elders if its the proper thing to do,

    they are truly gods idiots on earth

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Okay, they don't make the point plain, but are they saying that it is fine to treat a tubal pregnancy surgically because it is not technically an abortion? But it is still left up to conscience???? They don't flat out say relax, it's not an issue, why still leave a life-or-death thing up to conscience?

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    I never understood how you can kill something that by there definition is not alive. ALso you can remove life support from adults with impunity. This is stupid. I say if the

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    g91 10/22 p. 8 The Best Help Is Available! ***

    Christian

    Guidelines

    What guidelines could the Christian apply in a situation where a loved one is in a terminal state?

    First, we must acknowledge that each situation involving a terminal illness is different, tragically different, and there are no universal rules. Furthermore, the Christian should be careful to consider the laws of the land in such cases. (Matthew 22:21) Keep in mind, too, that no loving Christian would advocate medical neglect.

    Only when there is undeniably terminal disease (where the situation has been clearly determined to be hopeless) should consideration be given to asking that life-support technology be discontinued. In such cases there is no Scriptural reason to insist on medical technology that would simply prolong a dying process that is far advanced.

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    g86 9/8 p. 20 The "Right to Die"?Whose Decision? ***

    Where death is clearly imminent or unavoidable, the Bible does not require the artificial lengthening of the dying process. Allowing death to take its course under such circumstances would not violate any law of God.

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    g80 5/22 p. 12 Abortion: What the Professionals Say ***

    At the Beth Israel Hospital, in Denver, Colorado, a doctor did an abortion by injecting birth hormones to induce premature birth. Hours later the baby was delivered live, cried, and some time later died. The doctor ordered no life-sustaining measures.

  • Perry
    Perry

    I have always wondered if Tubal Cain in the bible was a result of tubal pregnancy.

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    Notice the use of "embryo" rather than "developing child" or "unborn infant". This is an abortion pure and simple. This is a choice being made to interfere in the developement of human DNA. Other cult leaders or individuals may chose to let the unpleasant consequences play out "trusting God" to intervene or at least recognise a loyalty to his "law against abortion" resulted in sacrifice. They are endorcing the supposed murder of an unborn to save the mother's life. It really is no different from the technical double standards with blood issues.

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    This is exactly like the blood issue. They are saying if you or the child are sure you are going to die you can abort it. Same thing about the blood issue if they are sure your child is going to die they with let the child take blood. The funny thing is all this conflicting posturing. 9 or 10 paragraphs of saying "x" is a sin then saying under certain circumstances you are allowed to do "x". Just like porneia. You can touch gentials but not "manipulate" them. The funny thing is most of these loopholes seem to only be there fo leal reasons. If the are implied legaly for giving medical advice then you can sue them (I believe). So they can only use emotional ploys to make it seem like you have a chance. I noticed for examples if you have an abortion the watchtower says this in footnote

    See here they weasel out of giving out of any advice. They do even say if it is a sin to abort .

    *** g96 8/8 A Window on the Womb ***

    [Footnotes]

    Selective abortion is the practice of aborting a baby because it does not have the characteristics the parent (or parents) want.

    This, of course, does not mean it would be improper for a Christian to undergo tests to determine the health of an unborn baby. There may be a number of Scripturally acceptable medical reasons why a physician would recommend such a course. Nevertheless, some tests could involve risks to the baby, so it would be wise to talk to the doctor about these. Subsequent to such tests, if the child is found to have serious defects, Christian parents may in some lands be subjected to pressure to abort the baby. It would be wise to be prepared to stand by Bible principles.

    Notice it does not say before one becomes a JW. It says "anyone" and "past". If you feel sorry then abortions are okay I guess.

    *** g95 3/8 Abortion?Is It the Answer? ***

    [Footnotes]

    Some of the names have been changed.

    Anyone who erred in the past and aborted an unborn life need not conclude that all is lost. Such ones can be confident that Jehovah supports repentant wrongdoers and ?forgives in a large way.? (Isaiah 55:7) While the emotional scars may linger, the psalmist assures: "As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset, so far off from us he has put our transgressions."?Psalm 103:12.

    See The Watchtower of September 15, 1980, "Single Parents Coping in Today?s World." Also, see "Young People Ask . . . How Can Unwed Mothers Make the Most of Their Situation?" in the October 8, 1994, issue of Awake!

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