Whats happening in America's colleges? (page 2)

sarcen

As a wet-eared conservative going into university 3 years after ex-ing the JWs, I had a steep learning curve to academically survive the Normandy-scale barrage of liberal flac. However, there are ways to learn to negotiate the bullets, learn to talk the talk, take what you need from it and not actually injest or inculcate it like JW bullshit. Liberal rhetoric is all about "laying bear" the device, magic or mechanism of how certain groups retain power. That's unfortunate for Caucasian males and whoever else the liberals decide to call privileged because the power those groups enjoy starts to errode. The erosion of pre-existing power doesn't mean those groups have to like it. If Ben Shapiro is the stereotypical "angry white male", then the alternatives are this: conservative religious assholes nosing in your business, or liberal agnostic assholes nosing in your business. To someone who has decided not to believe in moral obligation towards a God or "his" representative, the liberals' point cannot be contradicted. What the hell does a deistic universe care about what you do with your own body, or what transsexuals do with theirs? If he is the "angry white male", then his problem is not that liberals promote ideas that allow everyone to exercise choice. It's usually only an asshole would be offended by someone making their own decisions. No, he's being stung by the ebbing power of the white male, visibly shearing away from the powerful patriarchal models that our fathers set. The fact that my father was an elder asshole that was offended by anyone, including his wife, exercising choice, does not mean that I instinctively desire the powerful and priviledged patriarchal model to completely evaporate. As an organism, it is my Darwinian prerogative to appreciate and attempt to preserve whatever advantages are conferred by whatever genetic, gender, etc attributes I have. HOWEVER. There is only one way to ensure that the asshole patriarch never again plagues the Darwinian organism, however advantaged it may itself be by perpetuating the role: it must divest itself of all the trappings and lies of inherent, God-given, authoritative, legitimated power.

frenchbabyface

Well again details ... Still :

this is how it works : from 6 years - university (LEFT) - Over they swich on the RIGTH side

Only take the way they teach history and sociality (is a distortion - to get what they want out of it)

Almost a natural process - it all depends on teachers finally and some named as Elite for instance are those who are talking to the students in the book and in colleges - where is this Elite coming from and what do you think they want you to learn.

Cause this is what we learn in school ... To learn and to obbey ... not to think (but only on technology bases even not only related to technologie) ... anything else are just statements mades by WHOEVER (Gov's - society - religion - media - businessmen, ...) WHO ARE THEY ? - WHAT DO THEY WANT ?

frenchbabyface

Must add that it is not an American issu ... we all have to deal with in our own country

myauntfanny

I should add that I've never heard any professional academic, no matter how radically feminist, claim that "studies have proven" that marriage is a form of oppression.

I have, we had a radfem lesbian separatist philosophy TA and she was mad as a box of frogs, kept insisting that we all ought to be gay whether we felt like or not. But who cares, really? We all laughed at her. We had a mathematics teacher, super nice guy, who told us all that if we wanted to join the student strike it wouldn't affect our grades. He really wanted us to strike, but mathematics students are generally far too obssessive to miss a class, and we all came in that day. He was very disappointed in us, but nobody cared. College students are adults, after all, and don't take any more notice of their teachers than they want to. I notice that this "author" is 20 years old. Basically he wants to go to college and hear only what he hears at home. Why doesn't the guy just buy a degree off the Internet, and avoid all differences of opinion? And he could hardly sound any more JW if he was an elder. Okay, the topic is liberals and not Satan, but otherwise, the resemblance is eerie.

SuperMommy

That sounds like the subject in a KH I attended a month ago

Badger

I had several different types of professors...all over the spectrum. I had one that was a Social Democrat that taught Middle Ages History (Studying that era extensively would make me a commie, too.) and a Reactionary that taught Early America and colonial period (Although he didn't toe the far-right line onf the Civil War.)

Simon's right. The Right and the Left have always "played the ref" when it comes to teachers. They still do.

Jankyn

Simon hit the nail on the head. The only people who think it's "indoctrination" are those who are having their beliefs challenged (and, in the midwestern schools where I taught, that was a majority of students).

This is the same sort of knee-jerk response to critical thinking that has JWs screaming "Apostate!" if you ask them to check their math.

An education is all about critical thinking skills. As I used to tell my students, I really don't care what your political beliefs are, as long as the essays you write support those beliefs by making claims that are backed up with evidence.

Jankyn

ApagaLaLuz

An education is all about critical thinking skills. As I used to tell my students, I really don't care what your political beliefs are, as long as the essays you write support those beliefs by making claims that are backed up with evidence.

Sounds like Jankyn may know what their talking about. That's the way I learned.

p.s. what did/ do you teach?

Badger

Brummie: That story is off of World Net Daily...that site is further right than Fox News.

Besides, many schools banned admissions to minorities for over a century and were peopled by rock-ribbed teachers. Besides, having your previous beliefs challenged IS education.

Crazy151drinker

I would have to partially agree with the book. Not that being a liberal is bad (well yeah it is....) but the vast majority of the teachers ive had are liberal. Exceptions: Business teachers and History teachers.

Are the view points they present mainly liberal- yes. But then again, thats why they are teachers, because if we had a choice we wouldnt listen to them

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