Why JW Enemies Will Fail? - A Consultant's Analysis

by reason 44 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Undaunted Danny
    Undaunted Danny

    Mr 'Reason' I've pasted my post from another thread.This is the mortality dynamic of your analysis.

    I'll be 47 in a week and the: Onrush and onset of mid life is brutal for all of us who squandered our youth for the WT cult!

    Born in the 'troof', I never prepared myself for old age,and to have to watch my mind and body weaken is a harsh,almost surreal horror.

    The only consolation,is that i got out at 33 and the same is happening to all my JW dubs who were my peers.

    Growing old in the Watchtower's "spiritual paradise" it really s**ks don't it.The WT say's youre not going to heaven,so what is the final disposition of an active JW?Contemplate your rotting corpse to come!This is the hope that you have from the Watchtower.

    I can still go and get saved as a Born again......

    { Post script to active JW lurkers read this:

    Waiting,still waiting,waiting for that momentous moment!Yes,so ready and eager for those choice morsels of spiritual food from the table of the faithful and discreet slave.How old are you now ? ?There is a 100% chance my friend that you will grow old and die just like everybody else.There will be no changing of the guard,only the changing of your diaper..... Governing Body as evil rulers causing death

  • reason
    reason

    You still have to prove the WTS is wrong!

  • Poztate
    Poztate
    You still have to prove the WTS is wrong!

    Their own history has proved it many times over.I think you are suffering from an ID Ten T error. (spell it out)

  • reason
    reason

    The kind of comments i get on this forum just shows the quality of people you are. The WTS is right when it describes you people. Now i know. You can't find the truth here. Not among you.

  • RandomTask
    RandomTask

    The only 'war' going on between most who have left the JW religion and the JW's is in the minds of the JW's. Most of us are content to have left and to have our lives to ourselves. I am just as content to let JW's be themselves as well. I can't say that I don't wish for the dissolution of the religion, but I can't say that I wish any harm on anone who is a JW and if they wish to continue to believe the religion it is fine with me.

    The problem that the witnesses face is not from any so called "apostate", but from the incredulity of their beliefs. Apostates can't help that the ordinary witness might have doubts, merely through their daily life and existence as a witness, not from any idea implanted upon them by any so called "apostate". The witnesses time and again prove to their adherents that they have nothing to do with the God of the bible, that is, if you believe in Him. No banners on the outskirts of a convention are necessary to raise doubts, the faulty religion does all the heavy lifting there.

    But the witnesses are facing an added problem. They have reached out to just about everyone they can convert at the doors. Everyone who is of the mindset to converting to the religion already pretty much has. Fewer and fewer of the adherents are coming from the general public, and more and more are the offspring of witnesses. There is an inherent difference in the mindset of someone who converted to being a witness and someone who was forcefed the religion from youth, someone who has seen everything through the eyes of a child, growing up in it, with a knowledge and understanding of the religion that someone who converts as an adult has a hard time attaining. And it is the children, the offspring of witnesses who will be the downfall of the religion.

    Right now, most witness youth are living what they refer to as a "double" life, as opposite to a witness standard as can be when away from their parents and the Kingdom Hall. They have a support group in this so called double life in all of their other "double" friends. Should a witness youth decide to leave the religion the concequences are not so grave, most parents decide to go easy on their children should they become disfellowshipped, because of a little thing called "love". You might remember Jesus talked about it with the parable of the prodigal son. Many witness youths are putting off baptism, again because of their support group of other so called "witness delinquents". There again the consequenses for leaving the religion are even less.

    So as more and more of the youth leave the religion and les and less people around the globe are able to be snookered into following the witnesses, both through saturation, the fact that the Witnesses no longer have an urgent date or time to sell and that they have become a more mature religion, with more information on them in the public arena than ever before. The witness will become marginalized, an unimportant blip on society, much like the quakers. They still exist, but nobody gives a crap anymore.

    This of course will take many years, but it will happen. And it may not be in my lifetime, but hey, I'm not concerned. I'm no longer a member of that religion. In my opinion I already have been saved and my life has begun anew. Thank God. What things happen to the witness religion will only affect me in that I am now merely a curious observer when it comes to their fate. The very fact that they think that they are warring against the likes of me should say much as to their idiological condition.

    I wish you a good day!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    reason

    As far as failing goes, that would only apply if there was something that i was trying to do. You assume that apostates all try to deprogram jws. Some apostates try to do that, many don't. Except for a bit of discussion here, i don't care what jws do. I don't have any responsibility towards them. They can do what they want. I won't fail.

    The truth is that there aren't answers to many questions that the wt claims to answer. But, you can't handle that, can you? Better in a group where silly nothings disguised as truths are whispered in your ears to guide all your mental faculties.

    SS

  • reason
    reason

    The WTS painted your image vividly in the WT magazine as the 'bad guys'. I doubted the WT's words. I went to check it myself. It was true. It is disappointing to see how people who claims they have found freedom outside the WT walls are worse than those whom they criticise.

    I was reading all your posts and i can't see any input from a godly person. I was like sorrounded by a bunch of hyenas in the elephant's graveyard.

  • Undaunted Danny
    Undaunted Danny

    Mr 'Reason' Your postings are typical of a flunky troll.What's your real Identity?

    The founder of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WTBTS), ? Charles Taze Russell, was a religious eclectic. Webster?s Dictionary defines an ?eclectic? as a person who selects from different systems, doctrines or sources. That?s exactly what Russell did. He rejected the Christian faith of his fathers and collected doctrines and beliefs from various pagan systems and wacko scientific theories that were making the rounds in late 19th-century America. He spliced these together with selected Bible texts and Second Adventist teachings to form the new religion of Russellism.

    Jehovah's Witnesses at a glance: Why I left the troof. (1) the central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower is that Christ Jesus returned to power in 1914.This 'mutated millerite' dogma is a blasphemous bogus LIE!

    (2) The revered holyman founder of Jehovah's Witnesses is buried in a mystical pyramid monument.

    (3) Sooo,the upshot of # 1 and 2 is that the Watchtower has been,teaching doctrines of demons from the get-go.

    Consequently on the basis of Gal.1:8 Jehovah's Witnesses are accursed and die unsaved.

    People usually imitate the God they worship,who by process of elimination is NOT Jesus Christ.

    This would account for all the dog eat dog turmoil among JW's.[James 3:15,16]

    There's and elephant in the room. Elephant 2

    It is large and squatting, so it is hard to get around it. Yet we squeeze by with "How are you?" and "I'm fine? And a thousand other forms of trivial chatter. We talk about the weather. We talk about work. We talk about everything else? Except the elephant in the room.

    We all know it is there.

    We are thinking about the elephant as we talk together. It is constantly on our minds. For, you see, it is a very big elephant. It has hurt us all. But we do not talk about the elephant in the room. Oh, please, say the word. Oh, Oh, please,... let's talk about the elephant in the room. For if we talk about death, Perhaps we can talk about life.

    Can I say " 1914 IS A LIE " to you and not have you look away: For if I cannot, then you are leaving me alone? in a room? with an elephant.

    Elephant 2

    "I still know what you did."
    Danny says, "A tiger can take down an elephant, if it bites it once a day."

    The Jehovah's Witnesses can grandstand to the ends of the Earth,and you will still.....

    GROW OLD AND DIE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

    The only variable here is; will you also die broken and unsaved?

    [Notice; All Jehovah's Witnesses who have died,are all Still Dead

    http://dannyhaszard.com/bangornews.htm http://www.voccoquan.com/brightwell/jehovah.htm

  • Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.
    Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.

    unreasoning,

    It is a sad, but true and well acknowledged fact that not everyone one can meet the grade of being an apostate. Many dubs, like yourself, actually prefer to have every facet of their lives controlled by a manipulative and deceitful group of individuals masquerading as gods representatives on earth. Takes the effort out of reasoning and decision making.

    I guess we won't being seeing much more of you. To show that apostates really are caring people, let me offer these words of caution and advice - Don't let the door slam on your sorry arse on the way out.

    Undaunted Danny - I like your unique manner in dealing with the cult. Very creative.

    cheeses. Gathering in the lost sheep.

  • Undaunted Danny
    Undaunted Danny

    http://www.dannyhaszard.com/adhominem.htm Ad Hominem

    Description of Ad Hominem

    Translated from Latin to English, "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."

    An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument...............

    Nuff said

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