Daughter Dating DUB Update (Really Long) (page 3)

Stefanie

I could never let on who I was dating or that we were having sex because I was afraid of what people would think

I know thats how I ended up pregnant at sixteen.

jwbot

A couple of you said something negative about teenage daughters...If you are open and honest with your teenages, you will have good results!

I only WISH my parents were like that, I would have told them more and made them a part of my life.

btw, peeps, just as an aside; while the law may technically be that it is illegal for an 18 year old to have sex with a 17 year old, the system has absolutely no interest in incarcerating or even getting involved in matters such as this. It's great that Corvin's daughter's boyfriend's mom (whew!) believes it works like that, but it doesn't work like that.

jwbot

Stephanie: Its why I had sex so young (15) :(

I think if I knew I could be open with my parents and have my parents support...they would have encouraged me and shown me how really good relationships are. I would not have had sex with some creep that pressured me when my self esteem was low. I would have gotten self esteem from my parents, and perhaps have developed a good relationship with a nice person, and been more open about birth control. grr. But my experiences have made me who I am today, so it aint so bad :)

Stefanie

Thanks jwbot.

We are both the same in many ways.

Corvin

btw, peeps, just as an aside; while the law may technically be that it is illegal for an 18 year old to have sex with a 17 year old, the system has absolutely no interest in incarcerating or even getting involved in matters such as this. It's great that Corvin's daughter's boyfriend's mom (whew!) believes it works like that, but it doesn't work like that.

sixofnine, it really does work that way. If I were to file charges, the young man would definitely be spending mandatory time in jail. California state law requires it.

Corvin

I wash going to comment in my usual manner but after reading this post I think I will get flamed for opening my mouth. Lets just say I really would hae not addressed the issue in the same way.

It's ok, XQ, you may say whatever you want and I am admonishing all not to flame you. I appreciate everyone's feedback, and it just might be that your viewpoint might hold some insight I haven't been blessed with. So please, by all means . . .

SixofNine

California law requires it? That would be downright freakish. California is odd, but not that odd.

I think you're wrong. God, I hope you're wrong. What a travesty that would be.

PENAL CODE
SECTION 261-269

261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the perpetrator, if the person is a minor.

 For the purposes of this section, a "minor" is a person  under the age of 18 years and an "adult" is a person  who is at least 18 years of age.

(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor. (c) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is more than three years younger than the perpetrator is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison. (d) Any person over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 16 years of age is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years. (e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the following amounts: (A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000). (B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000). (C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000). (D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars ($25,000). (2) The district attorney may bring actions to recover civil penalties pursuant to this subdivision. From the amounts collected for each case, an amount equal to the costs of pursuing the action shall be deposited with the treasurer of the county in which the judgment was entered, and the remainder shall be deposited in the Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund, which is hereby created in the State Treasury. Amounts deposited in the Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund may be used only for the purpose of preventing underage pregnancy upon appropriation by the Legislature. 261.6. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289, in which consent is at issue, "consent" shall be defined to mean positive cooperation in act or attitude pursuant to an exercise of free will. The person must act freely and voluntarily and have knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved. A current or previous dating or marital relationship shall not be sufficient to constitute consent where consent is at issue in a prosecution under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289. Nothing in this section shall affect the admissibility of evidence or the burden of proof on the issue of consent. 261.7. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289, in which consent is at issue, evidence that the victim suggested, requested, or otherwise communicated to the defendant that the defendant use a condom or other birth control device, without additional evidence of consent, is not sufficient to constitute consent.

Updates 04-2001:

From District Attorney (http://www.stanislaus-da.org/statutory_rape.htm)

What is Statutory Rape?
Statutory Rape is unlawful sexual intercourse with someone
under the age of 18.

What is Vertical Prosecution?
Vertical Prosecution means one prosecutor handling the
case from issuance to final disposition. Studies show that
when it comes to crimes of a personal and sexual nature one
attorney handling all aspects of the case, from charging
through sentencing, increases effectiveness in
understanding the dynamics of each particular case and the
needs of each victim.

Do WE PROSECUTE EVERY CASE?No. We are evaluating each case independently to determine if
criminal charges are appropriate.

Corvin

sixofnine, I see you have a point there. It appears the laws have shifted a bit from last I heard. Thank you for your research. I suppose he is a lucky little bastard, then isn't he?

SixofNine

I suppose he is a lucky little bastard, then isn't he?

lol, much luckier and much more morally dichotomous than I was as a dub kid at his age. But he's the one who has to live with himself, and "himself" is a self-serving JW punk-ass (who btw will reverse positions and want to screw around more just as soon as he gets really horny again) with a terminally guilty feeling, so there is some justice.

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