I didn't realize how much it had affected me... (page 2)

blondie

Aztec, in some way they think they are doing the "right" thing.

My mother still leaves voice mails and sends cards. In my situation, I just erase them and shred them. Sometimes Irrev shreds them and doesn't tell me any mail came and he erases the messages. It is hard to try and maintain contact with JW family. I just don't try any more. Everyone's situation is different and I can't compare my feelings to yours.

Just stand up for yourself and know there are people who love even if your beliefs aren't the same as theirs.

Blondie

bull01lay

Congrats on standing up to yer dad! Must have took some courage that one!

IIZ2COOL: "I've been hearing much of the same lately. Even though I'm "out" my mom has some idea that I still believe in it on some level, so she's trying to work on it."

I hear you on that one - constant barrage of how little time there is every time I go around. I was brought up with " The new system will be here before you go to Junior school, senior school.... it'll be here before you finish Senior school...." and time is still short!!! Anytime I point that out, i get the "J will do it in His own time", but it's very close now!!

I often say to people that the day my Mum stops trying to get me to go back, is the day I know she no longer cares about me. But sometimes..... AAAAAGH!!! It doesn't half get on my nerves!

Anyway, I digress....... Well done dude!

Bubbamar

Way to go Aztec!! I'm happy for you that you found your voice! Just don't be disappointed if he never hears you or respects your thoughts or beliefs. I used to want to try to get through to my mom or try to get her to reason or logic on something. But its pointless - she's brainwashed! Good luck to you - its not easy. But life is good!

logansrun

Actually, time is relative, not constant.

hehe...

Congrats on standing up to your dad. My suggesstion is to print out a few good articles on errors in the JW system, memorize some of the finer points and then you will be able to back up what you say with more than "I don't believe it." If you must, challenge the JWs to "look at the facts" by reading the article. When they refuse tell them they are operating from a position of ignorance and that it would then be impossible to debate the subject.

Bradley

Fleur

good for you, aztec!

i know it drives me mad to hear my mother say that the end is 'just around the corner'. that's the longest corner in the history of mankind! she's been believing it for more than 55 years :(

so glad i got out, and that there is hope that my child will never believe the lies that have stolen years of people's lives. sometimes, entire lifespans.

keep standing up for yourself!

hugs

fleur

orangefatcat

Its good that you had the courage to stand up to your father. Some times that can be a scary thing, disagreeing with a parent.

I know when I use to stand up to my mother on issues she would be appauled by the way I felt.

You do what you do to survive.

If I had a dollar for everytime my parents told me the end was around the corner on our doorstep on the threshhold, I would be a trillionaire.

Just snickering to myself here and realize just how much crap I listened to for all the years as a JW.

Orangefatcat.

Aztec

Bradley, whatever...

Thanks for the responses! I'm getting really sick of my father bullying me. He's done it my whole life. I was so surprised by the look on his face when I stood up to him!

Just don't be disappointed if he never hears you or respects your thoughts or beliefs.

Bubbamar, I expect that he won't but I want him to leave me alone!

that's the longest corner in the history of mankind!

No kidding! LOL!

Walter, I know what you're going through right now. It can't be much worse than what's going on here. I think. I'll shoot you an email later hon.

Thanks everyone!

~Aztec

kls

Aztec, what do you want? Will moving make thins better?

Mulan

Good job. My mother says that to me all the time, and once I asked her if she thought it was more difficult to live now, or during the potato famine in Ireland (her ancestors came here during that time). She had NO COMMENT. She's heard all the family stories and knows it was really bad.

Aztec

Try not to let that pity turn into contempt.

LT, I get what you're saying but I've held my father in contempt for so long that I don't know if he deserves anything else. Well, he did help me with my car one time so I suppose he's not all evil. How about if I just treat him the way he's always treated me?

Blondie, I feel similarly about my Witness relatives. Maintaining any kind of relationship with them is very hard. I get very sick of the crap they feel the need to force on me. I wish they could just stick to other topics but they have to tie everything into Witness stuff. Watch out for those tornadoes! We've been having them here too.

Last note: I was watching tv with my father a few days ago and he remarked that there are so many movies that deal with spiritism coming out lately. (Uhhhh, okee doke. I don't think there are any more than usual) I said "Yeah. The new Harry Potter movie is coming out this summer. I can't wait!" He just shook his head. Arrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh!

~Aztec

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