It makes me queasy when I hear that too. When I talk to my mom, every other word is Jeeehover this, Jeehover that.
*sigh*
Can you even stomach the name "Jehovah"?
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frankiespeakin
Yeah it's just like the tobacco smoking habit. When you quite using it,,you start to see how offensive it is.
I don't particularly hate the "word" but the f*cking waste of time I spent serving this numb nuts pitiful excuse of a jewish fable god,,kind of makes me want piss on a WT,,or wipe my ass with one.
So it don't make me sick in the stomach it just makes me want to do something symbolic.
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Odrade
Nope, blech. Now logically, I know there are other groups who use it, but my JW upbringing and subsequent "eye-opening" has pretty much poisoned the name for me too. I only use it when I am talking to someone still in (like family members) or someone who is newly exiting and still using all the JW terminology. It would be too much of a shock to their systems to just say "god" or something else. Still sticks in my craw.
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FMZ
Hey Bradley... I had this same problem when I started praying again after going through a brief patch of atheism. I was praying, and all of a sudden, something wasn't quite right when I tried to say Jehovah. That time, I acquiesced and used "God", which still felt strange, but not quite as bad.
After speaking with a close friend, he pointed out a scripture to me. All of a sudden it made sense.
Acts 7:59, 60 59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!"
60 Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" Having said this, he fell asleep.Now compare what Stephen says with what Jesus says on the cross.
Mark 15 34 At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" which is translated, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
See the difference in who prays to who? Try following Stephens example, you'll feel much better...
FMZ
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onacruse
FMZ:
...after going through a brief patch of atheism. I was praying, and all of a sudden, something wasn't quite right when I tried to say Jehovah. That time, I acquiesced and used "God", which still felt strange, but not quite as bad.
Interesting!
A "brief patch of atheism"???
If you don't mind my asking:
Why did you "acquiesce"?
Sincerely,
Craig
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FMZ
Ona:
A "brief patch of atheism"???
After coming out of the b0rg, I did some studying of the origins of the Bible. I found many flaws in the way it was written, and some inconsistencies etc. It was at this point that I slowly but surely lost faith in God and Jesus.
After reading a thread on JWD though, I got to talking to someone about the Bible. Once again, I found myself building my faith in Jesus from scratch.
Why did you "acquiesce"?
At this time, when I was praying, every time I wanted to say Jehovah, I got a gut feeling that it wasn't quite right. I wanted the feeling to stop. I tried using "God", and although it still wasn't quite what I was looking for, it seemed a little better.
Now, after studying a little further, I believe there is a reason for this. In praying to Jehovah, I was praying to the Father. Jesus was sacrificed to become our mediator to the Father, so in being our mediator, he is the one we should speak with. I think that the reason the gut feeling subsided is that in praying to God, I was praying to Jesus (the Son) as well, not just specifically the Father.
I now pray to Jesus pretty much all the time, and my faith has been restored 100-fold.
FMZ
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onacruse
FMZ, thank you for taking up my inquiry!
If I may press still a little harder:
Why do you "feel better"?
And just how is it that your "faith" has been restored?
Craig
PS: Brad, forgive me, my dear fellow, if I seem to be hijacking your thread; not my intent.
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FMZ
Why do you "feel better"?
At first I wasn't sure. I didn't know why it didn't feel quite right to pray to Jehovah, that's what I had always done. I believe now, that this feeling was put upon me by the Holy Spirit, to help me realize that we should be praying to Jesus, not Jehovah / Yahweh / the Father. Now, in praying to Jesus regularly, as I should be, it has become a joy to pray, as my prayers are often answered quite directly (not always the way I want, but directly nonetheless).
And just how is it that your "faith" has been restored?
This cannot be explained in terms of what I read or studied. In praying to Jesus, I found him... and guess where he was? Right in front of me! Now he has such a direct effect on my life, I feel that there is no way things could happen this way if he did not exist. It's like the wind, impossible to describe with words, but when you feel it, you know.
FMZ
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onacruse
FMZ, thank you again!
You are indeed a brave fellow, to express yourself so openly! I applaud you.
But, I must yet continue to confront you
that's what I had always done.
Yes, as with me; I now classify that mentality as "conditioning."
my prayers are often answered quite directly
Again, very interesting. Care to offer a specific example? I can give you 2 experiences from my own life, which I consider comparable to what you say.
It's like the wind, impossible to describe with words, but when you feel it, you know.
Now you're sounding like MarkfromCali.
The idea of "personal revelation" makes perfect sense to me, but is irrelevant insofar as a db, or even as friend-to-friend, or even, husband-to-wife, is concerned.
Craig
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FMZ
Again, very interesting. Care to offer a specific example? I can give you 2 experiences from my own life, which I consider comparable to what you say.
Hard to offer any specific examples, as they are quite often more like nudges. You see, recently I have been praying more and more for Jesus to direct me, and guide me. Often times, even during a prayer, the Holy Spirit will give me a slight nudge in the right direction. Hard to explain, almost like he's talking to me, but no voice.
I would be very interested in hearing your stories of prayers being answered, they are always upbuilding to us all.
The key to prayer (and life itself), I feel, is submission. We need to totally submit to hear the answer sometimes. Place it in Jesus's hands, and he will take care of it.
FMZ