Stopping the WT (page 2)

Celtic

Hmmmm guess my wilder younger days are a bott for some of you, hmmmm oh well, twas just a suggestion, still, if anyone is up for mischief, please be sure to let me know, I'm up for clandestine activities.

FMZ

How would one go about finding the frequency of the wireless microphones? It would be unlikely that they would suss that the apostacy is coming from their wireless system. Could even go for an all out survellance system on them (wireless video etc..) to watch the ensuing havoc...

FMZ

avengers

still, if anyone is up for mischief, please be sure to let me know, I'm up for clandestine activities.

About two years ago, (have I been on this board this long? well give me a big cigar and light it with a Zippo)
I posted about this.

Actually it was a warning. A warning for the WT that if they would continue the way they were going
that they were gonna make more enemies. Not just "regular" enemies, but young persons with a big rage
inside. I have seen it happen; Kingdom Halls being put ablaze, bombs inside the halls and more.

There's nothing more that I want than to bring the WT down, but imo you'll just be playing into their hands.
They'll just publish a magazine exposing "your work".
They'll just throw in a couple of bible passages like "John 15 20 Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' [1] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. . "
not giving the real reason why.

I personally think you have to destroy them from the heart. One of the reasons I became a dubb was the "moral issue".
Remember it? Well, I think their heart has been hit. They lost the "moral issue".
They have proven themself to be liars and deceivers. This will be a deadly cancer for them.
Ofcourse they will not stop with their propaganda and I can see your point here; stop the trucks, slow their machine down etc.

Be aware of the percussions! You'll be labeled as a German friend of mine said, "a mad dog apostate".
The dubbs still in captivity will just be held more captive with more negative propaganda.

If we can somehow get the R & F to see the deception of their "leaders" then we are getting into the "heart".
I think that there's where the key is.
This takes time. And youngsters (no offense) are often impatient and want to see results right away.
So do I, but.. In the past I've ruined months of work by just saying the wrong thing.

So I urge you to watch out. Don't give these (__|__) holes the satisfaction, so that they can say: "Look, I told you so" to the R & F.

Imo, morally they lost. It's only now, how do bring them down?
How do we get them out of their seat of which they say:
'I sit as queen; I am not a widow,
and I will never mourn.' ?

I'm not telling you what to do and what not to do, because I don't know what the outcome would be,
but to exercise patience and restraint, so as not to be impulsive.

just my 2 $.001

Andy

ps (if I sound like I'm preaching, sorry about that. I'm not like that usually, 'cause I'm having way more fun than I ever had when I was a dubb)
ps ps A couple of years ago I was with one of my sons and we saw an (__|__) elder near the water. My son goes: "Let's push him in".
Man was that tempting, I tell ya.

Fe2O3Girl

Phantom Stranger said (on another thread, and I have cut and pasted it several times now, because it was so well put), bold mine:

I'll again suggest that the best way to limit the growth of the WTS and of groups like it is to dedicate yourself to making the world and our society a better place. The WTS doesn't exist because of the logic of its arguments or the factualness of its statements - it exists because of the emotional appeal of its thematic message to people in emotional pain and need. As long as people feel a need for such emotional support from any source, there will be a WTS, and groups like it.

And it doesn't exist because its literature leaves the depot unhindered.

Any direct action just feeds the persecution complex and convinces the rank and file that they must surely be in the truth if the world hates them so much. What got me out (ten years ago, that's ten years of contributions they haven't got, which is what feeds the beast), was the simple kindness of wicked worldly people.

No ranting Pents on doorsteps got me out, no leaflets, no attacks on Kingdom Halls.........KINDNESS GOT ME OUT.

MikeMusto

you could just ask someon what their frequency is

Undaunted Danny

The pen(keystroke) is mightier than the sword. POSTERS AND FAVORITE SIGNS OF INTEREST TO: LAW ENFORCEMENT:

DIFFERENTIAL COMPARISON,OF APOCALYPTIC CULTS vs. COMMON CRIMINALS:

Credo of common criminals;.."there is no honor among thieves","every man for himself ".

Credo of apocalyptic cults.."death before dishonor" , "all for one, and one for all ".

A BIG DIFFERENCE !

Common street thugs will betray one another at the drop of a hat..This is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

The , imminent 'end of the world' , apocalyptic concept creed , is much more formidable..This was the lesson learned with the David Koresh disciples at the Waco Texas disaster..These fanatics are pre-programed for martyrdom..The more force that you apply against them, the more it feeds into their self destructive mindset..

This phenomenon has been called,"suicide by cop".

They think if you kill them, they are going to a [BETTER} place !

This delusion is the underlying doctrine of global terrorism..

Question ? ? The 9 - 11 suicide perpetrators,, where they sincere ????

YOU BET !!

We have a saying about them,.."they are sincere , but they are sincerely WRONG"..They are not in an eternal paradise of bliss,being waited on by a dozen virgins....They are just dead..

What about the convictions of the Jehovah's Witness cult , and their apocalyptic infatuation ??

My personal experience is some are sincerely devout regarding their convictions of faith..I know I was.. And, many are driven by the age old credo , of the 3 p's :Power , Prestige , and Pu$$y..Same as the street thugs..More carnal than spiritual..

Is their an effective tactic against entrenched fanaticism ?

Simple.... The tried and tested divide and conquer technique......No matter how much cult leaders would have it otherwise, cult disciples can be split and fractioned..It's possible to dissolve their suicidal resolve..Appeal to the failed fallibility of their headstrong leaders ,and their failed promises ,e.g. "...the emperor has no clothes..."

Appeal to reason and ration.

This may draw some moderate members out , especially if they have small children..

They, don't all want to die...They, are not all ready and eager to be glorified.. But , if they are belligerent , [about going to paradise] ..You pretty much have no recourse except to , "punch their ticket for them".

Undaunted Danny http://dannyhaszard.com/ your friendly neighborhood militant apostate

[only prisons have 'watchtowers']

Simon

Celtic. This sort of thing just plays into their hands.

The general public don't give a damn because they hardly think about the WTS and JWs will just see it as persecution which will reinforce their beliefs.

Plus, doing anything illegal is a *bad idea* and just gives them the last laugh.

The best revenge is leading a life without them.

Undaunted Danny

The leadership and disciples of the WT$ borg have already bit the dust.Every Jehovah's Witness WILL grow old and die[unsaved].Those who have died are all still dead.

I personally want to plunder the a$$ets of the WT$.It's just a matter of time before they pay out the damage claims.If we burn the ivory tower to the ground they will be bankrupt.

Well living is the best revenge,and we kill the enemy besides.

Besides jail sucks. Prisoner

Celtic

Fair points, apologies for not responding to your replies before, that microphone frequency one though was a right beauty idea, cheers Mike, and Simon, point taken, Danny too, cheers.

itsallgoodnow

Even if the Watchtower organization closed down, that wouldn't stop most of it's believers people from finding another abusive religion to join, so really what's the point? The Scientology group could use a few good Jehovah's Witnesses, I think.

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