by thinker 21 Replies latest watchtower bible
Question:
Genesis says that on the first day God creates lightand divides the light from the dark. Then on day four He creates the sun, moon, and stars to divide the light from the dark. So, on day one, two, and three where did the light come from? How was it divided?
All opinions welcome.
thinker
It's just another screw-up in the bible. There's lots of 'em. Of course, the Borg has a load of specious explanation for it. But there it is.
My $0.02
This is an interesting question. Here are my 0.02. I think the Bible uses figurative language to tell how things took place, but deciding upon the scientific equivocation of HOW God could have done this is the fun part. So here goes.
1:1 "In the beginning God created the Heavens and Earth." So we know right now that the earth and the sun and the stars were already there. All that is left now is to move things around and thus I think what happens after this is just selecting the earth and moving it and the sun perhaps into an isolated area where just the light of the sun reached the earth with no other stars nearby.
Thus speaking of creating light and darkness and dividing the light and dark had to do with isolating the earth close enough to the sun for it's current illumination and yet isolated enough from other stars so that one half the earth was lit up and the other half in darkness.
Now think about that. If the earth was far far away then it wouldn't be all that bright. So with reference to the earth, creating "light" meant moving the earth into the Sun's light, then perhaps moving the earth and sun into an isolated place so that there was darkness elsewhere.
So what we see is God creating the solar system and assembling the planets and moons in their orbits so that it became a means of timekeeping, etc. Obviously the Sun didn't generate all the perfectly round planets circling it. So that would explain this.
Now, of note, the "firmament" that separated the waters from the waters has been confirmed Biblically to be clear ICE. That is, the "water canopy" that encircled the earth was a clear ice sheet creating a hothouse effect on the planet; not the seasons we have now which didn't begin until after the flood. That's how those waters stayed up there because it was frozen.
At the time of the flood, the darkness for seven days prior to the floor may have been the de-iciing of the water canopy which created dense clouds and thus the darkness. Then when the ice canopy had been vaporized, while there was total darkness on the earth, God caused it to rain down on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights until the entire planet was flooded (I know you didn't ask for all this, BUT....).
After that, God used "winds" to funnel most of the water back into outer space. The water may have remained generally in the vicinity of the earth and thus we see ice accumulations around comets, etc. So we know there is H20 in outer space. Maybe the majority of it we have in the solar system were part of the original flood waters. As we know most planets have no atmosphere.
Anyway, my main point here was that we should think of the water canopy above the earth before the flood as being a solid outer globe of clear ice.
Spectacular!
But it's true, persons without spiritual imagination find much in the Bible boggling; those with spiritual insight find it a fascinating revelation of God's secrets.
LG
Hello, dear 'thinker'... and may you have peace!
I am not a Bible 'expert', but it has been granted me by the One who IS... to answer your question.
Read the following in the order set forth:
1 John 2:10
John 8:12
John 15:4-7
John 6:56
John 1:9
John 3:19
1 John 2:9
1 John 3:10
Genesis 1:4
Matthew 19:17
Genesis 1:4
Genesis 3:15
Galatians 3:16
Galatians 4:26
Revelation 12:17
Matthew 5:16
1 Thessalonians 5:5
1 John 2:6
1 John 2:9
1 John 3:10
The 'light' of Genesis 1:4, is the TRUE Light 'that came into the world'. By means of that 'Light', my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, the Son of the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, we, too, can be 'beget', or 'generated'... by means of an outpouring and receipt of Holy Spirit... thus, we can call him 'Eternal Father'... because we are 'sons'... of Light. And as such, we are to let our 'light'... 'shine'... 'before men'.
We have an Adversary, however, the Darkness, who also begets 'sons'. Because we are children of 'light'... and his 'sons' are 'children of darkenss'... there is a DIVISION... or 'enmity'... between Light... the SPIRITUAL 'luminaries' (Revelation 21:23)... and Darkness... whose 'lamp' is 'very dark indeed'.
This enmity began on the 'first' day... LONG before the PHYSICAL 'luminaries' that are the sun and moon were created on the 'third' day.
I hope this helps you gain understanding, for I have spoken it to you just as I myself heard it from my Lord.
I bid you peace, and I am...
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
I'm sorry, Josh, but...
What happened to the TRUTH... that YOU (the 'messiah') supposedly spoke when YOU (the 'messiah') said that the Father had made ALL things known to you... except 'the day and the hour'?
I find it absolutely INTRIGUING that you are evidently ENMESHED in trying to discern the 'day and hour'... yet, do not know the truth of the division between 'light' (you, according to John 8:12), and 'darkness'... (the Adversary)... and must therefore resort to speech such as 'my 0.02' and 'what I think'.
My advice? Get a 'life', NOW, Josh... because your FUTURE... doesn't look too 'bright'.
John 5:40
A slave of Christ,
SJ
The light is the revealing of Christ. Which seperated Satan's darkness from the Light of God. You are reading the two sides being seperating. Removing the yeast. Getting away from the unclean thing. Getting out from among them. Corruption in heaven was contagious. "Day" one light is spiritual light. The darkness is spiritual darkness. The darkness was thrown into Tartarus to be seperated from the cleanliness of God and his loyal ones.
Notice there is no "made" or "created" statement. All there was said was, "Let there be..."
Gen 1:3-4
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Christ verifies himself as the Light:
John 12:45, "I have come into the world as a Light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.
So does John:
John 3:19, This is the verdict: Light has come into the world,
1 John 1:5
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
AGuest,
Sorry you are finding technical problems with the Messiahship claims. But this is the way it is. I'm the Messiah and that's that. This has been confirmed by the "sign of the son of man" reappearing in 1999.
If you have problems with any of my views or with me, I suggest you take it up with your "Master".
The promised Messiah of Scripture was to appear in the flesh between November 30, 1992 and April 6, 1993 in the form of an Ethiopian eunuch, anointed JW. If you have an alternative Messiah that meets those qualifications then I suggest you check him out. Otherwise your are in error, Biblically. That's just way it is. Sorry.
LG
Larsguy,
Do you "know all things" just like the Jesus in the flesh did, due to the Father's spirit within him?
This doesn't make a lot of since can you simplify it some.
thinker,
The way I see it, light was one of God's creations, darkness, being negative, was not. The creation of light is mentionmed first, since the succession of days and nights is to be the frame in which the work of creation takes place.
God does not need the sun to produce light.
