Do you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God?

by desib77 63 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  JCanon

  Hi Sherry, Thanks for your reply. But with all due respect, usually when a specific term is in reference one checks the possible alternative meanings. Here are the meanings, including "dinosaur" that the Blueletter Bible gives...

  Outline of Biblical Usage

  1) dragon, serpent, sea monster a) dragon or dinosaur b) sea or river monster c) serpent, venomous snake

  So that was easy...

  As far as the carbon dating, I fully take the criticism that yes, I'm biased about something that contradicts what I believe to be true, but it's interesting it is not hard to contradict. Furthermore, others on the opposite end of the argument call it being "skeptical". I'm skeptical of the radiocarbon dating because I wonder how reliable it can be or if we know enough about exceptional phenomena?

  For instance, is it only dead tissue and organic matter that breaks down over centuries or can viable tissue have the same half-life break down? Of note, some animals caught in a flood and quick frozen have been thawed out centuries later and eaten. Freezing preserves and slows down the usual chemical breakdown of organic matter. Who is to say exposure to some outside effects, maybe other radioactive materials might affect the aging process? Or maybe after a certain concentration or period there is an accelerated curve and that's what scientists are seeing? I don't know.

  On the other hand, I find it contradictory that for the majority of those 30,000 years mankind was just hunter-gatherers and then all of sudden are upright and humanoid as we are today.

  So I have doubts about it.

  In the meantime, some scientists are certainly anti-Biblical and dishonest and science is being revised on a regular basis. I'm just saying there could be an "error" in the dating process at this stage, especially since other things contradict.

  But granted, I do not have the expertise to challenge this claim, but that also disallows me to trust it fully just on the scientists words. Some of these scientists believe in evolution, certainly a profoundly stupid theory if ever there was one, but everyone doesn't have the same intellectual capacity, so, there you have it.

  Anyway, "dinosaur" is an alternative definition for the Hebrew term used, it's just some translators prefer "whale" or "sea monster".

  JC
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  JCanon

  Hi Alan...

  Sherry, I hope you know that JCanon is a complete whack-job, thinking he's literally the returned Messiah.

  This is your unilateral wet dream, Alan, hoping I'm not really the real thing. But I am. I'm the promised Biblical Messiah who arrived precisely the year prophesied by scripture, regardless of ancient revisionisms. And there is nothing that can be done about it once I'm revealed to the world other than your saying, "Well, I guess he was telling the truth!" That's it. It's just convenient for you, and perhaps kindly, that I'm "crazy".

  That said, JCanon's remarks are typical of the totally screwy lengths to which YECs (Young-Earth Creationists) must go to maintain their fairy tale. They'd reject evidence that bit them in the ass if it contradicted their religious myths.

  AlanF

  I don't mind being put into that category of those who have "blind faith", because I can look out into the world and see the trees and flowers and all their beauty and then look up into the heavens at night and see that beautiful round moon in an ellipitcal orbit around this planet along with all the other solar system planets in the same plane and know it didn't happen by accident. The Bible's references to the real world aer consistent with everything I see so I believe the Bible, sorry. It's a draw, since I think that the theory of evolution is profoundly stupid based upon the reality.

  But you have to give the creationists a little credit for believing the Bible, not because of their religion, but because what science claims is not acceptably credible to some of us, so given a choice, they go with the Bible. You see, it's easier for me to believe that some powerful being selected the moon and placed it in an elliptical orbit around the earth than that this beautiful planet just happened to be cruising by at just the right speed through the solar system when the earth was just in the right place and it just so happened to get caught into the Earth's gravitational pull and went into an ellipitcal orbit around this planet instead of crashing into it.

  Oh please, Alan! Please, enjoy your profound stupidity as much as you need to for YOUR FANTASY. Yeah, some of what I believe may be my "fantasy" but I'm not the only one in the room "tripping" about how the world got here and what's really going on. Even if I didn't believe in the Bible I wouldn't believe a profoundly ignorant theory such as evolution.

  See ya!

  JC
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  gumby

  Even if I didn't believe in the Bible I wouldn't believe a profoundly ignorant theory

  Yes you would. The fact you believe the Bible is gods word, proves you would.

  Gumby
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  Jim_TX

  "...it's all too convenient that out of those alleged 30,000 years or more that man was ape-like and living in caves as hunter-gatherers and then all of a sudden he started writing and building pyramids and zygurats, all within the Bible's timeline. "

  I don't remember anyone here saying that man was ape-like. Just that skulls have been found that date back 30,000 years. YOU are the one bringing up man was 'ape-like'.

  Many of the structures that are un-explainable like some of the pyramids, and the Sphynx, ALSO date to prior to a 6,000 year timeframe. I believe the Sphynx has been dated to about 11,000 years. (The Sphynx ALSO has water damage up high which suggests that it has been under water at one time.)

  Anyway... if one cares to look - logically - at the evidence that exists - and not get bogged down in JW, or religious fairy tales - then things start to make sense.

  Man... intelligent man... existed prior to the Adam and Eve myth.

  Regards,

  Jim TX
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  onacruse

  JCanon:

  But granted, I do not have the expertise to challenge this claim, but that also disallows me to trust it fully just on the scientists words.

  Oh my goodness: The Messiah, the Mighty Son of God Himself, the Eternal Father, doesn't have the "expertise" to comment on the simple matter of radioactive dating methodology, which a college sophomore science student could easily do???

  So much for omniscience...my faith is shattered all to pieces.
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  micheal

  Hell no!! If there is a God the worst thing he could have ever done was send a book down to us. Look at what this great book has done to humankind, it has seperated and divided people in half. If there was a God it would be much more effective to proove to us that he exists ( and the birds and trees do not proove this ) then tell us about his purposes.

  This faith crap is the biggest copout out there. He created us with a brain, please give us more proof than one book and a million interpretations of it. A great wise amazing divine all-knowing perfect person cannot be behind such a thing.
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  gumby

  JC..........do you ever listen to yourself?( now that was dumb question)

  Alan, hoping I'm not really the real thing. But I am. I'm the promised Biblical Messiah who arrived precisely the year prophesied by scripture, regardless of ancient revisionisms. And there is nothing that can be done about it once I'm revealed to the world other than your saying, "Well, I guess he was telling the truth!" That's it. ",

  Because I can look out into the world and see the trees and flowers and all their beauty and then look up into the heavens at night and see that beautiful round moon in an ellipitcal orbit around this planet along with all the other solar system planets in the same plane and know it didn't happen by accident. The Bible's references to the real world are consistent with everything I see so I believe the Bible, sorry. It's a draw, since I think that the theory of evolution is profoundly stupid based upon the reality.

  Now folks.....take a good look at the sanity involved in this posts in quotes.

  In the above post.....he's Jesus himself, creator of all. In the very next paragraph, he believes the bible is gos word because the creation that he observes convinces him the bible is gods word, and the fact that the bible (he himself inspired), is consistant with what he personally understands.......and so that makes him believe the bible to be gods word. Brilliant! Not once does he say he believes it because he was there to inspire it himself.

  Ya know...if I were Jesus.......I'd give ol' Gumby bout 50,000 and hide it under his mousepad right now.....that's what i'd do. How bout it Hey-zoose....ya wacky little bastard!

  Gumbullshithater
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  onacruse

  Now hold on there, Mr. Gumby...

  the Bible itself assures us that it is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16)

  A "sacred" writing categorically tells us that it is a "sacred" writing...what more proof do you need??

  ...you expect a phone call from God Himself?
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  gumby

  you expect a phone call from God Himself?

  Actually....I thought YOU were god when you called today as I was just going to call you. I'm still thinkin you might be Jehovah in disquise tryin ta trick me back to the borg in some slyass way, cuz he does that kinda thing ya know? He fooled old Abraham into gittin him some chow bafor he went and told him he was the lord! After all....you ARE a carpenter aren't ya? Ya damn Jesus/god bastard you!

  Gumby
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  shotgun

  Gumby and Onacruise are not God...Popeye is...I am what am...I'm Popeye the sailor man...It's in Genesis!