min - I tried to take no notice of dates but at one time after baptism in the 1980s - I truly thought I would be in the new system before the year 2000 and certainly by 2004
Did You Think That You Would Be In Paradise By 2004?
by minimus 40 Replies latest jw friends
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Mary
My parents were "urged" not to get married in the 1950's cause the Big A was "imminent" and they'd be best to wait until the Neeeewwww System, as their time could be better spent now preaching to one and all about how they were going to die if they didn't covert.
Then it was like "you'll never have to worry about any of your kids going to public school";
"you'll never have to worry about any of your kids going to high school";
"you'll never have to worry about any of your kids getting married in this System of Things";
"you'll never have to worry about any of your grand kids going to public school";
"you'll never have to worry about any of your grandkids going to high school";
and on and on and on.............
I for one absolutely believed the New System would be here long before now...........what a frigging waste of time.
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sleepy
Oh crap !You mean, this is not the new system now! Could have sworn I heard a loud bang in a storm a couple of years back , just sort of assumed it was armagedon.
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minimus
"You'll never have to worry".....because you'll be dead.
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SAHS
[[[[[[[[[[?doogie?]]]]]]]]]]
? i don't think i ever thought i was going to get in ?
[[[[[[[[[[?Junction-Guy?]]]]]]]]]]
? . . . I always felt like my life was a death sentence ever since I was born . . . I wished I could have been born back in the 50's, at least there would be some time left. Being born in 1970 I had always thought I would be destroyed by the age of 30 . . . I never thought I would be in paradise by 2004 but just the opposite-destroyed in Armageddon. ?
[Above hugs are of the square-bracketed, manly variety.]
Guys, I can certainly relate to what you wrote. I never dreamed that the big A wouldn?t be here by the end of the last millenium?and I never really had any confidence in my survival through it, if it should come.
For many years, I had reoccurring nightmares about seeing a dark, foreboding storm on the horizon with funnel clouds, and running for my life. (Guess what that symbolizes.) At first, when I was really young, I thought that I was going to be okay, but then my elder dad kept scaring me about sinning against the holy spirit and being condemned. This started at around eight years of age, but it wasn?t until around puberty that I really became cosumed with the fear, anxiety, and sadness (you know what I?m talking about). I wish I could just rip that page right out of the Bible.
All well. At least?thank God for Web sites like this one. A couple of years ago I thought I would just take a peek at ?the other side of the coin? on the old Internet to see what all the fuss was about. The more I looked, the more all those JW date speculations (scare tactics!) seemed to run together into a blur of idiocraty. The fear still doesn?t disappear, but at least the big A boogey man seems to be getting a sweet does of vallium.
[([([([([(Sincere hugs to all, male and female, who have had to live in fear)])])])])]
?SAHS
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Triple A
Can anyone shed some light on how the WTBTS is pointing to this year? Or direct me to another thread or web site.
Thanks,
Triple A
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minimus
Which year? 2004? The Society never made that one important.
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Triple A
Minimus, I was asking about 2004. Why the question about being in Paradise by 2004? I just got it. Non thought that this date would ever occur. Thanks, Triple A
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FreeToBeMe
Fortunately I've missed the 2004 fiasco, albeit I was in the BOrg for the 1975 one.
I remember leaving East Anglia in '72 "to move where the need was greater". Our parting comments to the 'Congregation' were, "the next time we meet we'll be in The New System" i.e. Armageddon would be done and dusted and we would be in 'Paradise'. Well guys & gals I have some truly marvellous JW logic good news to impart to you... I have meet some of that old Cong since and my parents moved back to East Anglia nearly 20 years ago, I guess that means we are in Paradise!!!!!
I reserve comment (not), that this idea of Paradise in which the WTB&TS still holds mastery over its followers doesn't fit the description provided in pre-'75 litterature. If this is what was meant by a JW CONcept of 'Paradise' be it now, or at some airy-fairy time in the future, then as others have posted, I'd rather be dead. Gratefully such is not the case and, having abandoned JW rhetoric I have a sense of serenity (calmness amongst some madness) that rests easy with me today.
Mind you, now you mention 2004, I wonder if this year might prove to be a turning-point for the WTB&TS, I hear all is not well at Crooklyn. Not that I'm concerned for the Corporation... hmmm, best I stop now, I sense a ramble coming on.
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minimus
"Next time I see you, it will be in the new system." That comment was mad for years before 1975. Thanks for that reminder.