I never knew (page 2)

LyinEyes

It amazes me that I didnt read on in the Bible the "rest of the story" so to speak in some of these bible stories.

I guess I heard the good parts and didn't have the good sense to read it ALL for myself , instead of bits and pieces of stories. The older I got I did read some of the horror stories but chaulked them up to me not understanding Jehovah's purpose in these as in Lot's story.

Does anyone eles know the truth of what happened to Jephtha's daughter. Remember it was in My Book of Bible Stories.....she was the one who came out to met her father, whom vowed to God to send whoever came out to met him in temple service to God? I always thought that is what happened , she was sent away to serve God,,,,,,,,,,BUT,,,,I have read somewhere where that was not the case. That she was LITERALLY sacrificed like a sheep to God!!! Dayummmmmmm , that was a little ummmmmm harsh, huh?

Corvin

LMAO Ezekiel3 !

Great post.

The inclusion of the information about Lot and his daughters in the Scriptural record should really help us to appreciate that the Bible is a book of truth. Even when persons who were known as God?s servants became involved in improper acts, the Bible does not conceal this. However, at all times such things are recounted, not to entertain or to stimulate a desire to indulge in immoral conduct, but to provide a background for understanding other events.

Is there any record found in the Bible about Lot and his daughters being castigated for their "immoral conduct"?

If lot was that drunk, how in the hell was he able to get and maintain a woody, let alone perform? What utter bull.

Corvin

They were aliens in the land and there was no one of their kindred with whom they could enter into marriage and thus preserve the family line.

More bull. JW's marry out of "the truth" all time and have babies. Was there a law prohibiting Lot and his daughters from moving to another city and finding mates?

DanTheMan

Don't forget the story in Judges 19 where a Levite and his concubine stayed with a man and his "virgin" daughter. Good for nothing men came around and want the homeowner to send out the Levite for a fun night. Instead the man offered his daughter and the concubine. The men took the concubine and gang raped her all night until she died. Then her owner cut her up in 12 pieces and scattered her in the fields.

Why, why, why did I waste 10 years of my life on Bible fundamentalism? WHY?????? *Buries face in hands*

Bubbamar

You guys are awesome

LyinEyes - Aww don't you love pugs!

Elsewhere and DSJ - great links!! LMFAO

Ezekiel - Great find w/ the QFR The inclusion of the information about Lot and his daughters in the Scriptural record should really help us to appreciate that the Bible is a book of truth. Even when persons who were known as God?s servants became involved in improper acts, the Bible does not conceal this.(But the WTBTS does a very good job of hiding their improper acts.) However, at all times such things are recounted, not to entertain or to stimulate a desire to indulge in immoral conduct, but to provide a background for understanding other events.

Why would they even think of that - not to stimulate desire. Can you say "projection?" (putting your own unacceptable thoughts/desires onto someone else)

Pole

What about Samson - the first time suicide terrorist in the known history?

Judges 16:

Samson now called to Jehovah and said: ?Sovereign Lord Jehovah, remember me, please, and strengthen me, please, just this once, O you the [true] God, and let me avenge myself upon the Phi·lis´tines with vengeance for one of my two eyes.?

29 With that Samson braced himself against the two middle pillars upon which the house was firmly established, and got a grasp on them, one with his right and the other with his left hand. 30 And Samson proceeded to say: ?Let my soul die with the Phi·lis´tines.? Then he bent himself with power, and the house went falling upon the axis lords and upon all the people that were in it, so that the dead that he put to death in his own death came to be more than those he had put to death during his lifetime.

"Jehovah's spirit became operative on him" in other marvelous ways too:

And Jehovah?s spirit became operative upon him, and the ropes that wee upon his arms came to be like linen threads that have been scorched with fire, so that his fetters melted off his hands. 15 He now found a moist jawbone of a male ass and thrust his hand out and took it and went striking down a thousand men with it. 16 Then Samson said:

?With the jawbone of a male ass?one heap, two heaps!

With the jawbone of a male ass I have struck down a thousand men.?

Leolaia

The Peutateuchal narratives aim to furnish an ideological basis of the unity of the nations of Israel and Judah (e.g. as 12 brothers of Jacob/Israel), as well as explain the relationships and animosity between Israel/Judah and the surrounding nations. Moab and Ammon were long rivals with Judah and the story was evidently directed as slander against these nations -- denigrating them as founded through incest. However, it is possible that the incest theme originally formed part of the story, though not specifically with a political bent against certain nations. It has been long recognized that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah myth is a desert version of the Flood myth -- with a small family rescued from destruction. It is quite possible that in a more original form of the story, the incest was done as an attempt to repopulate the earth. That some form of inundation was present in an earlier form of the story can be found in the several statements referring to the destroyed area as the "Valley of Siddim" and the "Cities of the Plain," an area presently part of the Dead Sea. Another feature of the story that derives from the Flood myth genre is the visit of the angels the night before and Lot's hospitality. In a Phrygian version of the Flood myth, an elderly couple spends the night in a city before they destroy it and are mistreated except by a single couple who take them in for the night and as a reward for their hospitality they are saved from the impending destruction.

Poztate

If lot was that drunk, how in the hell was he able to get and maintain a woody, let alone perform? What utter bull.

You must realize that mankind was closer to perfection in those days. It is only in "the last days"? of this wicked system of things that we can't get it up and keep it up as well as we used to.As to it being a peverted thing ...who are we to judge after all God knows best...

Corvin

You must realize that mankind was closer to perfection in those days. It is only in "the last days"? of this wicked system of things that we can't get it up and keep it up as well as we used to.As to it being a peverted thing ...who are we to judge after all God knows best...

I hope that is merely sarcasm. If you are serious . . . well . . . .

seattleniceguy

I remember when I first read the book of Judges. Talk about shocking! That has got to be the goriest book ever! I love the story of Ehud. The author seems to relish relating how when Ehud shoved his sword into Eglon's guts, it went in until the fat closed over the opening, and excrement began coming out. I always thought Judges would definitely be rated R.

SNG

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