Natural remedies are probably just a placebo effect, BUT they have done research showing that the placebo effect is really powerful. So why not? Who cares, if it gets you well? You don't think the pharmaceutical companies aren't making billions off medicines that don't have a very high cure rate?
What other scams do people fall for?
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sleepy
The only natural remidies that seam to work are thoose that make you high.........floating away
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Nosferatu
So why not? Who cares, if it gets you well?
I care when the natural remedy is more expensive than the actual medicine. If $40 for a bottle of beaver shit and poppy seed juice don't really cure me, then those herbalists can keep their bullshit remedies.
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myauntfanny
Nosferatu, I take your point, a lot of alternative medicine is ridiculously expensive and exploitive. I was just making a different point. If it doesn't work, it's not worth shit whether it's mainstream or alternative. If it does work, it doesn't matter whether it's poppyseed extract or molecularly recombined stemcell extract engineered in a space station by geniuses from Harvard (I just made that up, I don't know if it really exists - in fact it's probably scientifically impossible). And the placebo effect often works. If people believe that they can cure piles by stuffing peat moss up their ass, then maybe that will work for them better than hemorroid cream. Something from the tone of your post tells me that wouldn't work for you, but I may be wrong. None of that stuff works for me but neither do mainstream medicines because I don't believe in them either. I guess if I ever really get sick, I'm screwed.
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qwerty
What do you think of this one I received in my inbox this morning. I must be a sucker coz it sound like it should work!!!!!!!!
Subj: Make ££££ from Paypal works 100%
Date:
From:
To:
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Hi, I WAS SENT TIS EMAIL THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO YOU. SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
FROM HERE IS THE EMAIL I RECIVED ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW HOW MUCH MONEY CAME FLOODING INTO MY PAYPAL
ACCOUNT?"
I turned £3 into £14,706 within the first 30 days of operating the business
plan that I am about to reveal to you free of charge. If you decide to take
action on the following instructions, I will GUARANTEE that you will enjoy a
similar return!
Please do not be skeptical about this program. At least think about it for a
few days. Otherwise you will be throwing away over £10,000 in cash! This
system has been working for 2 years and thousands of people have joined and
they have been amazed by the results of a little time and £3.00! You will
too!
I was made redundant from my job in August of 2001, along with several other
employees at the printing firm where I worked. At that time I was living
beyond my means and in serious debt. Several debt collectors were hounding
me on an almost daily basis, and this consequently started a chain reaction
that ended with the repossession of my car and then my home. As you can
probably imagine, my prospects looked pretty bleak.
Then, in March of 2002, I received a short and simple email telling me how
to make over £10,000 at a time. I ignored it because of course, I was
skeptical. However, I didn't delete that email because something about it
rang true to me, and I was desperate to know whether it was possible to make
that amount of money in such a short space of time. By this time, I was even
deeper in debt, and I had just about reached the point of despair. I finally
realized that I had absolutely nothing to lose by having a go at the plan
offered to me in that email. And apart from that, I just couldn?t stop
myself from thinking "What if it actually works?"
Therefore, I put my doubts to one side and I went ahead and followed the
simple instructions given in that email. It took me less than 30 minutes to
complete and it cost me no more than £3. And yet, by the end of 2002, I was
able to book the family holiday of a lifetime in Miami, and I bought a brand
new Audi A8 with hard cash. And in the autumn of 2003, I purchased a tidy
semi-detached home for no less than £125,000. And yet, I don?t owe a single
penny to anyone!
To date, I have made exactly £392,718. My accountant has drawn up a
cash-flow forecast in which he predicts that, within the next 24 months, I
will become a millionaire just through this one business alone. Even now as
I write this, I find it strange to come to terms with the fact that, like
most people, I?ve worked hard and struggled all my life just to ?get by? and
then something ridiculously simple drops into my lap and immediately turns
my life around completely. When I think back to all the similar emails I had
previously deleted, it makes me shudder, because now I know just how close I
came to missing out completely.
What did it say in that email? Well, if you'll read on, all will be
revealed!
The business plan I am about to share with you works perfectly every single
time. I?ve never made less than £10,000 from it on each occasion. Let me
assure you that this is a LEGITIMATE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, a perfectly legal
moneymaking enterprise. It does not require you to sell anything. It does
not require you to speak to your friends, family or anybody else (unless you
want to). In fact, you do not need to come into contact with any people
whatsoever. Anyone with a pulse can become successful and make their fortune
with this system. If you believe that ?every dog has its day?, then follow
the simple step-by-step plan exactly as it is set out below. If you do this
and this alone, I GUARANTEE that within the next 30 days you will receive
over £10,000 in cash via your PayPal account. I know that this must sound
like an outrageous claim, particularly if you've never had possession of
this sort of money before, but believe me, this business works like nothing
else you may have seen before in your life! By following the simple 3-step
plan set out below, within a few short weeks your life will be transformed
beyond all recognition! Please do not allow your initial skepticism to
deprive you of certain financial success.
If you decide not to take advantage of this life-changing opportunity, I
would like you to know that I sincerely respect your decision and I
understand that you will have your reasons. I therefore wish you the very
best of luck for the future. I am able to say this with absolute sincerity
because, as you will see, if you decide to work this plan, I will not
receive any financial compensation from you whatsoever. After all, I am
sharing this system with you for free. However, remember life is short.
Nobody has ever said that you can?t have the financial freedom to do what
you want to do, when you want to do it. But you must first pay the price.
The price here is action; it?s as simple as that! I?m very proud to be able
to say that I?ve fulfilled my duty to my wife and children by securing their
financial future in a very uncertain world, and I don?t believe that any
price is too great to pay for such peace of mind.
This is the CHEAPEST, FASTEST and EASIEST way to make serious money online -
PERIOD!
There are a lot of companies out there offering to put you in your own
business, but I'm so certain you will make a SERIOUS INCOME with what I am
going to tell you that I'm willing to roll up my sleeves and help you begin
- RIGHT NOW!!
Remember, I am not asking you to send me a single penny for the lucrative
business project I am about to share with you. In addition, you will not be
asked to buy anything or sacrifice your free time. You will make some fast
and easy cash, using just a copy of this page and the simplest and most
popular Internet payment system in existence!
You have most likely seen or heard about this project on TV programs such as
20/20 and Oprah Winfrey, or you may have read about it in the Wall Street
Journal. If not, here it is below - revealed to you in step-by-step detail.
This program is by no means new. It has been in existence in many forms for
at least a decade. But in the early days, it required a lot more time and
effort, as well as an outlay of a few hundred pounds. However, thanks to
PayPal and the Internet, the outlay is now virtually ZERO! And what's more,
the entire process is FASTER, EASIER, and MORE LUCRATIVE than it has EVER
been!
If you're already running a home business, you can easily do this one along
with it. If not, this is the FASTEST and EASIEST way to earn serious money
online that you've ever seen so far in the history of the Internet! This
program works no matter what country you are in, or what currency you use.
It doesn't matter how old or how young you are. And you certainly won't need
any special knowledge or talent. You won't need to run a website, or make
phone calls, or make photocopies, or send out letters through the mail, or
pay for advertising, etc.
An email address
A Premier or Business PayPal account with at least £3 deposited in it
30 minutes of your time
This program takes just half an hour to set up. After that, there is
absolutely no work whatsoever to do on your part. And yet, you will stand to
gain many thousands of pounds within the next few weeks from those 30
minutes of easy work! Yes, I know, it sounds too good to be true! I thought
exactly the same thing myself until I actually tried it out!
Even if you are already involved in another program, stay with it, but do
yourself a big favour and DO THIS ONE as well. You have absolutely NOTHING
to lose, but you stand to gain a LIFE-CHANGING amount of money within the
next few weeks! In fact, there is NO LIMIT to the amount of income you can
generate from this one single business program!!
The facts are simple: If you need to make a few thousand pounds REALLY FAST,
then this program is the way to do it! It's the CHEAPEST, FASTEST, EASIEST,
and MOST LUCRATIVE program you will ever participate in!
Please be sure to read all of this page . . . take your time, come back to
it . . . go over and over it, you won't be sorry, I can certainly promise
you that! If you don't have time to read all of this now, then save this
page, or add it to your Favorites list, so you can come back to it later.
All you need is a PayPal account and an email address!
Just about everyone has heard about "PayPal" (if you haven't you will soon!)
and when I came across this concept I knew it would work because, as a
member of PayPal, I had already experienced their efficiency and excellent
standing. PayPal is the simplest method of making and receiving payments
online that anyone has ever seen! Anyone with an email address can join for
FREE! Once you have a PayPal account, you can send and receive credit card
payments to or from anyone - anywhere in the world! Please read further
before you go there... You can complete this whole process within just half
an hour and you will NEVER forget the day you decided to do so!!!
NEED PROOF? Here are just 3 testimonials from the countless individuals who
decided to invest nothing more than £3 and half an hour of their time to
participate in this program:
"What an amazing plan! I followed your instructions just 3 weeks ago, and
although I haven't made 10 grand yet, I'm already up to £6,135. I'm
absolutely gob smacked. Alan Humphries , Leicester
"This is Lisa. Well, what can I say?... THANK YOU SO MUCH! I sent 40
e-mail's out like you said and then I just forgot about the whole thing. To
be honest, I didn't really think anything would come of it. But when I
checked my paypal account a week later, there was over £3,000 in it! After
30 days I now have over £11,000 to spend! I can't thank you enough!" Lisa
McDonald, Northampton
"I was shocked when I saw how much money came flooding into my paypal
account. Within 3 weeks my account balance has ballooned to £7,449. At first
I thought there had been some sort of error with my account!" Richard Barrie
, Cirencester
Just a few months ago, each of these people were doing the same thing as you
are at this very moment - reading this! But because they decided to follow
the simple instructions given below, they are now considerably better off as
a result. And there's no reason whatsoever why you can't share in this
success. You've got nothing to lose, and EVERYTHING to gain! NEED MORE
PROOF? Here's a screenshot (from March 10th 2004) of a page of my PayPal
account. There are 4 further pages like the one below for March 10th alone!
Each time I put this plan into operation, the payments keep on coming in
like this every single day for over a month! And it works EVERY time!
FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=Awesome! This is PAGE 1 of my PayPal account on 10th
March 2004. There are another 8 of these pages just for the 10th March
alone!"
Let's get started, just follow the instructions exactly as set out below and
then prepare yourself for a HUGE influx of cash over the next 30 days!
Here's what you need to do. . .
STEP 1 Ok, if you're not already a PayPal user, the very first thing you
need to do is click on the PayPal link below and SIGN UP. It takes just 2
minutes!
Here's the link: https://www.paypal.com Be sure to use this link so you can
sign up for a free Premier or Business account. You'll need to have a
Premier or Business account (and not a PERSONAL account) otherwise you won't
be able to receive credit card payments from other people.
STEP 2 It is an undeniable law of the universe that we must first give in
order to receive. So the first thing to do when you have your Business
PayPal account is to IMMEDIATELY send a £3 payment from your PayPal account
to the FIRST email address in the list below, along with a note saying:
" Please add me to your mailing list. "
Be certain to add this note, as this is what KEEPS THIS PROGRAM LEGAL.
Instructions on how to send a payment are under "SEND MONEY" at the Paypal
site. It's so easy!!
When you send your £3 payment to the first address in the list, do it with a
great big smile on your face because "as you sow, so shall you reap!" The five emails addresses were here but I took em out- Bwahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! QwertyAfter you have transferred a £3 payment to the email address at the top of
the list, something very eerie happens. It gives you an indescribable,
overwhelming sense of certainty, belief and conviction in the system. You?ve
just proved to yourself that, because you have done it, there must be a
great number of other people ready to do exactly the same. Thus you have now
seen for yourself, first hand, that this business actually works!
STEP 3 Once you've sent a £3 payment to the address at the top of the list
(along with your note - this is VERY important!), the next thing you need to
do is to obtain a copy of the contents of this page, as you'll be sending it
out (as an email message or by advertising your page, like I have done) to
at least 40 people (keep in mind that 40 is a good number of people to
reach, but with all the different ways of advertising for free on the
internet the amount of views and signups under you could well exceed into
the hundreds or thousands if you wish....the more people who join the more
profitable for everyone on the list, including you). The copy that you will
send out will contain
YOUR email address at number 5 in the list - having deleted the address at
Number 1 in the list, and moving the others up a position.
The best way to do this is you can copy and paste into emails to your family
and friends. You can copy and paste it and put ad's on the internet on
message boards etc. Or you can create your own free website, by copying and
pasting. There are many free webpages you can build on the web. For example
2 good ones are www.geocities.com or http://www.cmlb.net. Both of these are
simple to use. And the best part of having this info on a website for people
to follow is you can post links to your site on paid to click websites or
paid to read email sites, for great advertising. There are countless ways to
get more people like me and you involved in this amazing program.
A. Go to the toolbar at the top of the window and select "Edit" and then
"Select All".
B. Go to the toolbar again and select "Edit" and then "Copy".
C. Start (compose) a new email message (PLAIN TEXT so everyone can view
it!).
D. Fill in your email address and subject line, and then click in the main
message area.
E. Go to "Edit" and "Paste" to paste the text into your new email message.
Now you can edit and format the message text in any way you want! However,
it's best to just leave the text as it is because you want your email to be
read by everyone who receives it!
The only thing you need to make sure of is that YOUR email address is at
Number 5 in the list in STEP 2. Of course, the address that was previously
at Number 1 should have been removed, and the other email addresses should
have been moved up a position to accommodate yours at Number 5. As long as
you have done this correctly, your email is ready for sending!
A word of warning! Don't be tempted to add your email address to position 1
in order to earn money fast! It doesn't work like that! If you do that, you
will ONLY reach the people you directly send emails to, and then your
address will be immediately removed from the Number 1 place and you won't
reach thousands of people! But, if you add your name to the Number 5
position, there will be literally tens of thousands of people receiving and
sending email's later - when your name is at the Number 1 spot!!!
F. Once you've got your email message ready, send out a minimum of 40 copies
of the email - but only to people you know, or to people who respond to MLM
offers, or to people who've sent YOU offers. By sending this letter and the
payment via EMAIL, the response time is EXTREMELY fast.......... ELECTRONIC
TRANSFER INTERNET FAST!!! That's why it takes only a few days for those £3
payments to start flooding into your PayPal account!
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT! The whole process should take you about 30
minutes to complete.
BE PREPARED TO GET EXCITED.... YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED!!! Half an hour of
easy work is all that's needed - no capital outlay, no postage stamps, no
printing, copying or waiting, and the concept is 100% legal.
Within 30 days, over £10,000 cash will pass through your PayPal account. And
that?s GUARANTEED. In fact, you can expect to receive a substantial number
of £3 payments within the first few days! Keep a copy of your email safe so
that you can use it again whenever you need more cash!
Here's how it works:
When you send out your emails, your email address will initially be at
Number 5 in the list. That's the best position it can be in at this stage if
you want to make serious money. The response-rate for this program is much
higher than any typical email marketing campaign for a number of reasons,
which are explained later. As long as you send your emails to people who are
likely to be interested in this program, on average, you can expect a
response from about 25% of the people you send to. But let's be extremely
conservative here and assume that you receive an average response rate of
only 12.5%. . . If you send out your email to 40 different people, you can
expect at least 5 of those people to do exactly what you did (12.5% of 40 =
5). By this time, your email address will have moved up to Number 4 in the
list, and this list will now have reached around 200 people (5 x 40).
Out of those 200 people, you can expect at least 25 of them to participate
(12.5% of 200 = 25), so that's a further 1,000 emails (25 x 40) being sent
out and your email address will have risen to Number 3 in the list.
Out of those 1,000 people, you can expect at least 125 of them to
participate (12.5% of 1,000 = 125), so that's a further 5,000 emails (125 x
40) being sent out with you now at the Number 2 position.
Out of those 5,000 people, you can expect at least 625 of them to respond
(12.5% of 5,000 = 625), so that's 25,000 emails (625 x 40) being sent out
with YOUR ADDRESS at the Number 1 spot!
Now, out of those 25,000 people, you can expect around 3,125 of them to
respond (12.5% of 25,000 = 3,125). And since you will now be at NUMBER 1 in
the list, you will receive: £9,375 (3,125 x £3).
So, when your name starts to hit the Number 1 position within the next few
days, it will be YOUR turn to collect the money! Over the course of 30 days,
this money will be sent to you by a few thousand people just like yourself -
who are willing to invest half an hour to receive around £10,000 or more in
cash! The first payments will arrive within a few days, and they will
continue at the rate of about 100 payments per day for about 30 days. After
that time, the volume of payments begins to taper off as your email address
vacates the Number 1 position.
That's all you need to do! There will be around £10,000 in £3 payments
waiting for you in your PayPal account within the next few weeks. £10,000
for just 30 minutes work! This is real money that you can spend on anything
you wish! Just deposit it to your own bank account or spend it directly from
your PayPal account!!! It's just that easy!!! I think it's WORTH IT, don't
you?
Remember, the 12.5% example above is assuming that 35 out of the 40 people
you send your email to will do absolutely nothing except delete your email.
However, if you follow the plan correctly and send your emails only to
people who are likely to want to participate, you can expect a typical
response-rate of around 25%. Hence, the 12.5% example is only given as a
worst-case-scenario. Additionally, the above example assumes that each
participant will only send out 40 emails. Imagine what would happen if each
participant sent out 1,000 emails instead of just 40! Believe me, many
people will do this and much more!
Consider this! Millions of people surf the Internet every single day, all
over the world! Plus there are 50,000 new people who get on the Internet
every month! The people who send you offers by email can provide you with an
excellent source of bulk email addresses to send to. You can also send out
emails to all of your family, friends, and to anyone who you think would
want to invest £3 and 30 minutes of their time to make a substantial lump
sum within a month. If you want to operate this business continuously, you
should consider obtaining bulk lists of email addresses from a reputable
mailing list company. That's how I've managed to stay in business for the
last 2 years! If you already have a legitimate mailing list, then this
program would be the most profitable way to make use of it. There are many
websites that sell thousands of fresh opt-in email addresses of people who
have subscribed to receive exactly this type of program. For example, visit:
htmail.com, BusinessMailing.co.uk and Email2Success.com. The possibilities
are endless, and it's so easy! Unlike many other MLM programs, this 5-LEVEL
PROGRAM costs you only £3. That's right, only £3 ONCE, which is much more
realistic and provides much, much faster results. Only the first person on
the list gets your £3 gift, but everyone in the list will rise to that
Number 1 position as thousands of emails are being sent out. No cheating can
occur (don't be fooled by claims that this system can be cheated) as Paypal
only allows one account per person. Because it is so easy, the response rate
is VERY HIGH and VERY FAST - Internet email FAST, and you will start seeing
dramatic results in less than one week! JUST IN TIME FOR NEXT MONTH'S BILLS!
Remember, you need only mail out 40 copies to start with. This will be
enough to generate a substantial lump sum within 30 days. For example, send
to personal contacts and reply to people who send their programs to you, as
they are already working on the web. They know these programs work and they
are already believers in the system! This is NOT considered SPAM if you are
responding to other people's offers, or sending to friends, family and
contacts, or if you are using a legitimate mailing list.
So, email your letters out today, and then prepare yourself for a huge
influx of cash within the next 30 days!!!
4 factors that make this program so successful. . .
EXTREMELY FAST RESPONSE
EXTREMELY HIGH RESPONSE RATE
UNLIMITED PROFIT POTENTIAL
QUICK, SIMPLE AND CHEAP TO GET STARTED
Because of the VIRTUALLY ZERO INVESTMENT, SPEED, and HIGH PROFIT POTENTIAL,
this program has a VERY HIGH RESPONSE RATE! And all from just a simple email
and one simple £3 PayPal transaction! In fact, this program has faster
results and a higher response rate than any other Internet program you could
possibly participate in! For most email marketing campaigns, the average
response rate is between 0.5% and 5%. However, this particular program
typically generates a response rate of between 20% and 30%. This is because
this program is so easy to implement, it costs next to nothing, it takes
just 30 minutes to implement, and the results can be seen within days.
I've been watching this type of MLM program for years and this is about as
easy and fast as you can get it. No stamps, no envelopes, no printed copies
to be made - just a little effort and faith!!! This program really keeps it
"short and simple"!
UNLIMITED income potential!
This program is structured for everyone to send only 40 emails each to
start. However, you are certainly not limited to 40. Send out as many emails
as you want. Every 40 emails you send has a return of AT LEAST £10,000
WITHIN 30 DAYS. So, if you can email 50, or 100, or whatever, GO FOR IT! THE
MORE YOU PUT INTO IT, THE MORE YOU GET OUT OF IT!
However, you MUST remember that sneaking your name higher up on the list
will NOT produce the results you think, and it only cheats the other people
who have put in the effort and have earned the right to be there. So please,
play by the rules and the serious money will come to you!
You are probably skeptical of this, especially with all the different
programs out there on the Web, but if you don't try this you will never
know. I felt exactly the same as you probably do right now. I wanted to
believe but i just couldn't help thinking that there was some sort of catch.
But then I realized that I had absolutely nothing to lose. After all, I was
only being asked to invest a measly £3, and yet I could earn many thousands
of pounds within a month. And all for just half an hour of my time!
Therefore I went ahead and did exactly as the email requested. This took me
around 30 minutes in total, and I'm so, so, glad I did that!
To get started, just click on the link below:
https://www.paypal.com
But please play by the rules! This program doesn't cost anything but £3 and
about half an hour of your time, and if everyone plays fair, everyone WINS!!
So there it is. You now have the knowledge that will enable you to make over
£10,000 within the next few weeks. The only thing that can hold you back now
is a lack of faith or a lack of self-belief. However, any doubts you may
currently have will disappear within a few days of putting this plan into
practice. Trust me on this! You certainly won't regret it.
Some notes from the PayPal site which you may find useful
PayPal lets you pay anyone with an email address and is the world's Number 1
online payment service. PayPal is accepted on over 3 million eBay auctions
as well as a countless number of online shops. You can also use PayPal to
pay your friends - for example, it's a convenient way to split the phone
bill with your room-mate, send cash to your kids in college, or send cash to
someone in another country.
When you send money through PayPal, you can fund your payments with your
credit card or cheque account. You won't have to worry about your privacy,
because PayPal keeps your accounting information safe and secure. Making a
purchase with PayPal is far more secure than mailing a cheque or giving your
credit card number to a stranger. That's why over 9 MILLION people from
around the world use PayPal to move money. Signing up for a PayPal account
is free, easy, and it takes only a couple of minutes.
Thank you, and good luck in your ventures P.S. Does this sound too good?
Well maybe to some skeptics it is. But it actually works, and is worth the
30 minutes of your time now. So, just make a nice cup of tea and get started
on it now. After all, you can't lose, but you stand to gain more in the next
few weeks than many people earn in a year!
Good luck and don't spend all your money at once.Sorry that was a bit long.
Qwerty....................... and I fell form MLM too!
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Crazy151drinker
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Crazy151drinker
Im going to have to buy some of that Moon property.
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sleepy
qwerty thats a pyramid scheme.All. you got to do is find 40 stupid people.
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qwerty
Sleepy
Qwerty
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Richie
For those who don't believe in network marketing programs, I have news for you: I am involved in a MLM program called USANA since 1996, and I actually earn my living with this company. I am working from home and get paid on a weekly basis. It's hard work, but it works for me.
I got burned however, in a HYIP (High Yield Interest Program) scam recently. The way they promise you return on your investment is that they will give you 3% per day on any amount invested. You can figure this out, that when you calculate this kind of compounding with an investment of appr $500, you'll be a multi millionaire in less than 2 years. The HYIP programs will exist for maybe 6 months and then suddenly they'll be off the internet claiming that they were hacked or something like that. Please be careful with these hyips; they are very similar to Ponzi schemes and they will hurt you eventually.
Richie :*)