Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-29-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)

by blondie 18 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • lurk
    lurk

    this is quite weird study is the WTs going for world domination?

    The rulers of the earth?should have acknowledged the King immediately and rendered him full obedience.

    There is still time for individuals to find safety?true even of individual rulers

    the WTS is the only way so they are saying all world leaders should become JW's they would of course answer to thier local congragations!!!

    or they would stand down from power and the next ruler becomes a JW untill eventually no rulers left excpet the governing body .

    so the world would be run by the WTS either way according to what the WTS think should be happening

    heaven help us........ my blood just went cold

    after breaking promises for so long political leaders get dumped by thier party and country

    i wonder how many false end of world start dates the world could put up with

    lurk

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I went hunting for references to God in national constitutions. There are lots, at least half of Europe. There is a debate on now whether God should be mentioned in the European Union constition. From a Warsaw paper:

    Let's now talk about the vital yet delicate problem of Invocatio Dei [reference to God] in the preamble to the future European constitution. What is the Polish stance?Our stance has been pretty clear. We agree that Christianity is an important determinant of Europe but this doesn't mean it was necessary to accept Christian values as a foundation of Europe without due consideration. When ancient Rome, ancient Greece and the Enlightenment was mentioned in the draft preamble, I had no doubt that Christianity should be there too. Not from the point of view of religiousness but from the point of the role of Christianity in the creation of European civilization. According to such reasoning, there was no reason why Christianity could not be put down in the Constitution. Instead, the whole paragraph on the cultural and civilizational heritage of Europe was omitted. And when the discussion about including Christianity as a religion began, the problem of Judaism, which is one of the roots of Christianity, and Islam, which has been present in Europe for 700 years, could not be ignored. This, in turn, created various additional problems, for example the issue of the possible membership of Turkey in the future.

    The introduction "in the name of God Almighty," which was proposed by many Polish politicians, the Polish Episcopate and the Vatican, was out of the question. Today's Europe-and that was clearly seen during the debate-considers itself secular, whereas the issues of creed are treated as a private matter in most European societies. Invocatio Dei would therefore be unacceptable to atheists.

    In this situation, I think the current entry is the best solution-it is one sentence long and refers to common traditions, cultures and religions in the plural, without being more specific.

    In my opinion, the over-sensitivity in Poland, Spain and to a lesser extent in Italy, was the result of the thesis that the EU is "Godless". It was one of the crucial arguments among euroskeptics, also in Poland: if it's Godless, then we must force it to say something about God in its major document. Meanwhile, this thesis is absolutely false-the EU is not Godless, the EU has simply regulated issues of religion and faith so that citizens of all member states can enjoy full freedom, and spiritual life is not confused with the work of the European Community.

  • cyber-sista
    cyber-sista

    The rulers of the earth?should have acknowledged the King immediately and rendered him full obedience.

    I agree lurk this is a strange thought. What does the WT mean? Does this mean in when Jesus took power 1914 According to the WT) that all should have obeyed the WT or the annointed ones who were his mediators? Were these annointing ones expecting to be ruling the whole world? That is a chilling thought. Imagine department stores full of JW wear? The only music to be heard throughout the land was Kingdom melodies? But worst than that--the WT could practice the laws the nations don't allow them too. The old laws of stoning for instance--they seem to express regrets at times that they can't completing practice WT laws because of the laws of the land.

    My first thought when reading excerpts from this article was how mind numbing it was. I am sure it was a comatose morning for all who were at the KH. I even felt myself sinking at the thought of being there--makes my stomach turn. I can only guess what the underlying message is to some of this material. I think the above quoted sentence stands out as a warning point to JWs. The nations should have obeyed, but wickedly they did not, but we as "good JWs" are totally obedient to the WT Org leaders, who are our rulers and mediators between us and Jesus.

    thanks blondie...

  • Maverick
    Maverick

    Thank you Blondie.

    Miss your feedback on the comments. Liked that as much as the review. Do hope your load lightens soon dear.

    More gruel from the cruel WTS! How do they call this slop spiritual food? They refer to "The King" in an off handed manner to minimize his importance, but shout out the word "Jehovah" at every opportunity! But should that surprise anyone? It is their lucky charm! Mav

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Thanks again Blondie; and fret not when a full plate requires you to be brief. As the subsequent contributions to this thread attest, it's often enough for you to ``get the ball rolling" and nudge everyone else to dive in.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Room 215, what makes me do the dance of joy is all the THINKING that Blondie's reviews inspires! What a refreshing change from rote-repetition!

  • Will Power
    Will Power
    WT Org leaders, who are our rulers and mediators between us and Jesus.

    Aren't the WT Org leaders the mediators between the other sheep and Jehovah? In essense taking the place of Jesus? Jesus' covenant is with the annointed only.

    Or is their claim to fame the mediators of the mediator?

    Hi jgnat, I've been pretty low profile lately. Thought if I didn't think about it, it would all go away. Not happening tho.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    "THE DECREE OF JEHOVAH" CANNOT FAIL

    Yet for some reason the "Decree of Jehover" through his sole channel of communication, the Watchtower Society, seems to fail over and over again.

    This means that one of these two things is true:

    • The Watchtower Society is NOT used by Jehover as a "channel of communication".

    or

    • The decree of Jehover CAN in fact fail.
  • lurk
    lurk

    cyber sista

    Does this mean in when Jesus took power 1914 According to the WT) that all should have obeyed the WT or the annointed ones who were his mediators? Were these annointing ones expecting to be ruling the whole world? That is a chilling thought. Imagine department stores full of JW wear?

    LOL Jw department stores

    seasonal colours for men = spring black, summer black ,autum black ,winter black .

    ladies dresses colours = what ever colours the local Elders like most and consider modest -red will be banned (as will all make up and nail varnish)

    all cloths will be mass produced in WTS magazine wholesome family patterns to avoid any sign of rebellious individuality

    we will be in the sewers eating rats and forming underground movements

    you know maybe it could be fun mwahahhahahaha

    lurk

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