I am new here!!! (page 2)

qwerty

Sarah
nice to have you aboard.

I know the truth about the org.
I admire your courage to suddenly stop going to meetings all at once!
I'm still going to the meetings and an a MS too. My wife is still, well I would not say 100% JW, maybe 98%. I have other family that are very zealous for the WTS, would die for it. So for now, as hard as it might be, I have to keep up my outward appearance of being a true JW.

I hope the Elders keep off your backs and not bring about a Judicial action against you both!

Tattoos ? ....Not much on the WT CDROM........Mmmmmmmm
I don't think it is a DF act.
I think that if a Brother with "privlages" had a tattoo he would have the privlages taken off him, eg; If he is a MS he would be taken off.

Mmmmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmmm! Maybe that's it!........... I am off to get a tattoo...thanks for the Idea!!!! Bye, got to go!

qwerty

No seriously, I 've always fancied a tattoo, perhaps just small one on my arm. You got me thinking now Batman!

Mulan

Hi Sarah, Welcome to our fun little forum!!

I can feel for what you are going through, and am amazed how quickly you saw the real truth. It took me MUCH longer, so I compliment you on your courage and your wisdom.

As for tattoos, I know a JW woman, who had a teardrop tattooed on her leg after her 23 year old son was killed in an accident. No one said a thing to her. Maybe they thought she had dirt on her leg. Do what you want. You don't owe them any explanations or information anymore. I understand your not wanting to be df'd, but just don't provide them with information. They won't make a big deal out of a tattoo anyway.

Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)

nelly136

and hemmaroid cream for after its done, apparently it heals
a lot quicker and seals the colour in,
nelly

Big Jim

Good move Sarah, it takes courage to do what you have done. And believe me in time you will have the same convictions about your new outlook on JW'S as you did when you first thought you had the truth.

There is nothing wrong with doubt.

(some good quotes on doubt)

The believer is happy; the doubter is wise.

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties.

One must verify or expel his doubts, and convert them into the certainty of Yes or NO.

True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance.

Who never doubted, never half believed. Where doubt is, there truth is -- it is her shadow.

Doubt is the vestibule through which all must pass before they can enter into the temple of wisdom.

If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.

He that knows nothing doubts nothing.

Doubt is the beginning, not the end, of wisdom.

Great doubts deep wisdom. Small doubts little wisdom.

There lives more faith in honest doubt, Believe me, than in half the creeds.

Life is doubt, and faith without doubt is nothing but death.

The greater the knowledge, the greater the doubt.

There is something pagan in me that I cannot shake off. In short, I deny nothing, but doubt everything.

We, when we sow the seeds of doubt deeper than the most up-to-date and modish free-thought has ever dreamed of doing, we well know what we are about. Only out of radical skeptics, out of moral chaos, can the Absolute spring, the anointed Terror of which the time has need.

Truth is beautiful, without doubt; but so are lies.

Believe those who are seeking truth, doubt those who find it.

Deep doubts, deep wisdom; small doubts, little wisdom.

Angharad

Thanks LDH, now I've no excuse to put it off!

jurs

Welcome Sarah,
I had my tubes tied 1 year after I was baptized. I didn't know it was wrong, by watch tower standards, until 2 years later. I never went to the elders about it but I did mention it to several sisters. Nothing came of it.
I also had eyeliner tatoo done. I told several sisters who wanted to know who did it because they liked it!!!
I bring up the eyeliner tatoo because I know a sad story over something so ridiculous . A girl ,17, in a different hall than mine, had eyeliner tatoo applied. She was also dressing a little to sexy. She started wearing a little too much makeup as well. Her Dad was an elder. Loving brothers and sisters in this hall started talking about her viciously. They started calling her a WITCH !!!! I am not kidding. I use to go to this hall, in Longmont, Colorado. I heard from several people about what happened to this poor kid so I believe it to be true. She was not DF'd but had an elder even call her a witch. She was shunned. She told her mom she now knew what a DF'd person felt like. It was so bad that her Dad stepped down (aside) from being an elder and the family quit going to meetings at that hall. they switched to a different hall, ( because Jah's holy spirit wasn't at that hall. ) The girl no longer goes to meetings.
Glad your here, Sarah.
jurs

jurs

I just wanted to add that the posters scared me too when I first came here !!! I was a little freaked out that I was talking to those "evil apostates." The foul language ect. at first affimed that these people really are BAD. Now i see them as people just like myself. Some are angry, hurt, bewildered, devastated ect. The one thing we have in common is that we have all been duped by a religion that we once believed in whole souled !!! Its nice to have a place to come to where people really know what we are going through.
jurs

messenger

Congratulations on joining the thinking class. The tattoo issue is not a DF offense. Nothing is written regarding this issue and no congregation action would be taken. An article about one year ago addressed body piercings as being worldly and a person doing so would not be considered exemplary in the congregation. In that article as I recall the issue of tattoos was avoided for some reason. Zealous elders could perhaps rule it as being a bad example and make a local decision to not use you as a aux pioneer. So unles you are thinking about aux pioneering I do not believe you have much to worry about.

Simon

Hi Sarah

Glad you decided to take the plunge and join in. It's great having new people join and share their stories and opinions.

I can't believe you would have been scared of us lovely, friendly people...er, well... maybe, yes... I see your point...

Roamingfeline

Now Simon,

We're beautiful people here, dont'cha think?

Welcome Sarah, it's great to have you here. So you quit the school and meetings in January? I'm really surprised that they let you just fade like that. I admire your courage!

RCat

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