WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON INTELLIGENCE? (page 2)

Mulan

How did you determine that she is 'the most intelligent woman you know'?

Well, she is in her 20's so is much younger than I am. She has almost total recall of things she has read, and she is a very critical reader, able to seperate out the bullshit. She makes a very good case in any argument, defending her views, but will listen to other views, and can put it together with what she knows and either change her own mind or try to change yours (mine), showing you another way to put your information into the equation.

Her description of her DF hearing, is very entertaining and it happened a few years ago when she was quite young. She made a good case for her position, and it sounded to me like she had those elders terribly confused. They talked to her and her mother for 4 hours, and her mother did little of the talking. She is very intelligent too, by the way but let her daughter take the lead in the discussion.

Those are just a few things I can recall at the moment.

meggidon555

forest gump

I like simple smarts not complex

if I can leave them in a jungle for an hour and they live they got a brain

Terry

meggidon555 said: if I can leave them in a jungle for an hour and they live they got a brain

Wow! Kudos to that. I think that is a beautiful representation of intelligence in a nutshell.

FMZ

Hmm... intelligence....

My wife says that I am a very clever person... but have zero common sense.

Am I intelligent? Ummm... no. In fact, I'm rather telligent.

FMZ

Euphemism

StinkyPantz wrote:As far as "emotional intelligence", I think that's some sort of pop-phrase. I think people can be emotionally stable or mature or able to recognize their emotional shortcomings, but the term intelligence doesn't fit for me.

How about a talent at picking up on people's emotional needs, making them feel validated, and/or influencing them? Those are qualities which, depending on how they're applied, could make for a good salesperson, a good psychiatrist, or a good parent. And yet I'm sure you'd agree that a lot of analytically intelligent people lack them.

So do you consider them to be a form of intelligence? And if not, why not, since they obviously involve the application of a considerable amount of brainpower?

(P.S. I had to edit this post three times because IE kept shifting the focus off the editor control, turning the enter key into a submit button. Does that make me unintelligent?)

StinkyPantz

How about a talent at picking up on people's emotional needs, making them feel validated, and/or influencing them? Those are qualities which, depending on how they're applied, could make for a good salesperson, a good psychiatrist, or a good parent. And yet I'm sure you'd agree that a lot of analytically intelligent people lack them.

Why not call these what they are instead of attaching a new pop-phrase to them? What you described could equate to an empathetic person, or a charasmatic person,etc. You need not be intelligent in order to influence people or make them feel validated.

So do you consider them to be a form of intelligence?

No, not really. I see them in their own category, not as a subcategory of "intelligence".. but that is my opinion. It's not as if I don't acknowledge these abilites, I just view intelligence more traditionally.

And if not, why not, since they obviously involve the application of a considerable amount of brainpower?

So the amount of brainpower now determines whether someone is intelligent or not? What other criteria are you using?

(P.S. I had to edit this post three times because IE kept shifting the focus off the editor control, turning the enter key into a submit button. Does that make me unintelligent?)

I could not accurately determine your intelligence based on this one thing.. I doubt anyone could. If you asked me to give my impression of your intelligence based on your overall posts.. maybe I'd feel more comfortable with answering. Even then, it's MY impression, which might not be reality.

I know I must sound cocky, but that's not how I'm trying to come across.. I just differ in opinion from you and I hope you can respect that. I most definitely respect yours.

Mum

There are different kinds of intelligence. I always did well on standardized tests, but my social development has been very slow indeed.

I have been able to live on very little money, which, IMHO, takes intelligence. But if I were so smart, why couldn't I get a better paying job. I think it was because of my lack of social skills, networking ability, and physical disfigurement.

My daughter once told me that she didn't understand how her father and I ever got together in the first place. She said that the only thing she could determine that we had in common was our tendency to leave the caps off ballpoint pens. The other thing we had in common was being social retards, but I haven't told her that yet. I have made progress, but still have a long way to go.

I'm going to retire in 2006 and try my hand at selling real estate as an ultimate test of my progress socially speaking. I am going to do the thing I fear most.

I hate the whole common sense argument because of my mother. She insisted that I had "book sense" but "no common sense." Her so-called "common sense" which was her pride would not have carried her through half of the situations I've found myself in. And I love my books. L-O-V-E, LOVE them!

Intelligence can be improved / enhanced / increased. I'm living proof.

meggidon555

meggidon555 said: if I can leave them in a jungle for an hour and they live they got a brain

Wow! Kudos to that. I think that is a beautiful representation of intelligence in a nutshell

if your complementing me thank you if your being sarcastic dictionary definition of common sence. A) knowlegde that is consider known by all of humanity or a culture. B) Any knowledge that hinders you from attaining a darwin award. the opposite of this definition. lacking common sence is any knowledge that aids you in attaining a darwin award.

frankiespeakin

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON INTELLIGENCE?

Hmmmmm Let me think about that,,,,,,,,,,Oh I don't know sometimes it's high over rated I mean what type of intelligence?? The type you learn thru life or the natural type you get from birth or high test scores while at school??

Preston

An intelligent person--describe them for us; what are they and what are they not?

An intelligent person to me is a very keen observer, is effective at reasoning, and has a didactic way of speaking. I also think an intelligent person has good time management skills and is a billiant strategist.

An intelligent person doesn't have to be nice and can be a hypocrite.

Who are your hero-types of intelligence? Great thinkers, writers, philosophers or ordinary people?

Kemal Ataturk, T.E. Lawrence, Jorge Luis Borges, Saul Bass, Ennio Morricone, Thomas Ligotti, Richard Nixon, Philip K. Dick, James Burke, Thomas Pynchon, Ram Daas, Stanley Kubrick, Noam Chomsky, "Lefty" Grove, Shaun Ryder, Lynne McTaggart, Ted Williams, Andrei Tarkovsky, Richard Matheson, Robert Oppenheimer, Andrew Sullivan, Salvador Dali, Steve McQueen, Buster Keaton, Andre Bazin, Howard Zinn, Barbara Stanwyck, Cedric Gibbons, Ingmar Bergman, Gregg Toland, Bobby Darin, Robert Bresson

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON INTELLIGENCE?

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