Why Are You Here?

by larc 76 Replies latest jw friends

  • Francois
    Francois

    Very good question.

    In the main, it's to help people who are hurting.

    But there are quite a few secondary reasons, not the least of which is to expose those bastards who, under the color of the arrogance and of the outright fraud of speaking for God, take advantage of people who will not or cannot think for themselves.

    And to rhetorically kick the ass of people who defend the bastards.

    And to engage in my favorite activity: writing. It's a disease.

    And I've met quite a few very engaging people here.

    So there.

    Francois

    Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.

  • Mommie Dark
    Mommie Dark

    Mama used to say, 'half of all people are put on earth as a test for the other half.'

    I'm the extra credit portion, and grammar and spelling count...:D

    "One crowded hour of glorious life is worth an age without a name."
    Thomas Mordaunt

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    larc,

    You wrote my post 'gramps'.

    You sir a class act. Thanks so much for making these needed comments.

    Danny

  • chester
    chester

    larc,

    I have to say that zev expressed my feelings almost exactly of why I come to this forum.

    I post here and read here, because i find other peoples experiences facinating, and helpfull to me. I need the support of this forum. Of the people in it and who want to help me and others like me. The facts and stories related here are of a help that one could only imagine for me.

    I find that I have a lot in common with a lot of people here on this board. I am a grandpa too. A great grandpa in fact.

    A lot of the things that redhorsewoman says here are my exact sentiments most of the time.

    I can identify with jurs in that she has said that she can't understand how she could have gotten caught up in a cult such as this.

    The way she dealt with the elders was a big inspiration to me because I know that I will be dealing with them one day in the some kind of way. I wish I had the courage to do it the way she did. I can't at the present time because my wife is still entrenched in this organization.

    I would like to be of help to people who want to know the truth about the so called "troof".

    I see so many young people who are caught up in this cult. They are unhappy but they don't even know why they are unhappy. Brainwashed from birth. It is so sad to see that.

    Chester

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    larc,

    I must have missed your post earlier, but glad I saw it. Thanks for saying what you do.

    My wife and I had the identical discussion ...

    See my post to ad hominem by philo.

    Maximus
    Avoiding Mickey Rooney Class
    "Ask Mickey the time of day and he gives you a lecture on watchmaking.
    --Ava Gardner

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    larc,

    I feel pretty much the same as you about why I post here with the exception that I'm very new at being out of the Borg.
    It was only in 02/?/01 that I finally realize I was in a mind controling cult. I knew the Org. was lying on many things but I just couldn't put it together, but reading info like what is found on this site and other sit like this helped me.

    So if I can help other I feel good.

    I think when it come to being kind to others on the board we all need to not let are EGO's get in the way.

    But free speach is some thing that is very valuable and we have to put up with some who use this freedom at times in a hurt full way. While we all would like things to be better its just the way it is and probably will always be.

    Unless we become like the WT and censur everyone.

    I'll try my imperfect best to respect every one. To disagree with out being disagreable (too much).

    Thanks for your post Larc.

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    Because I relate to so many people and their experiences.

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

  • mommy
    mommy

    Hey Larc,
    Thank you for your post, even if it was flat I found this forum, after being out 8 years. I was amazed at how many people shared my views on things, and experienced the same things. It was like I finally found my fmily, weird I know.

    Then I started getting to know certain ones online, and communicated directly with them. And I have found some lovely people who share my secrets, and I call friends. A great support system to me, and I couldn't have been luckier to find this place.

    Yes, I have been involved in debates here. But you said I was not any good, just a bird trying out my wings I just react strongly to some things, and do speak loudly about those things. I am young and still learning, but on certain subjects, where I found things that changed my life, and made me a better person, I share on those. To many times people are scared of change. And then we have a society that never changes, or improves.

    Anywho, I stay here because I have met many people I love here. I need you guys to stay in my life. It would be less colorful indeed.
    wendy

    Blind faith can justify anything~Richard Dawkins, The selfish gene

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    With trembling hands I begin to type this hoping that I don't somehow find myself in the line of fire..... so ironic.... I stopped attending meetings months ago because I could see that there was a steady undercurrent of veiled character-assasination flowing at virtually any function attended by JW's. It was fairly obvious to anyone not wearing an aluminum foil hat that there is a phenomenal dearth of self-esteem among many individuals in the "truth". Finding faults in others in one way certain people cope with feelings of shame and inadequacy. (I know: I am not talking major news flash here.)

    The "spiritual food" upon which we were supposed to sustain ourselves was dehumanizing, IMO. There is no room for individuality, creative expression, deviation from the norm (definition of which is determined by elusive things like appearances, how big the bow was that you managed to wrap around the "comments" made at meetings, behavior which was blatant "evident demonstration" of unfailing, unmitigated devotion to "Mother", revealing round the clock research conducted after arising at 5 am to do "street work" (a.k.a. accosting people in parking lots) before your five studies with chinese people (the language you studied in your spare time; preferably attending the chinese-language meetings in addition to your regularly scheduled programs); then, after homeschooling your kids and re-papering the vestibule of the Kingdom Hall, you were all studied and ready for that evening's meeting, which was conducted in part by your son-in-law, a visiting brother from bethel, who just got back from an emergency quick-build in Sudan.)

    {Yes, I can run on at the keyboard. I never did any of the above. Well, my comments were pretty insightful most of the time.}

    I've skipped over the post subjects that seem to indicate in-fighting. But it is getting a little scarey - spilling into just about every post.

    I have been fascinated and have learned a great deal in the past month, following this board. Great thinkers, great passion, tremendous compassion, exposure to information I'd never dreamed of having access to before.... I'd hate to see the dynamics of this board annhiliated by stupid kaka like short courses in the etiolology of "cunt" and "dick". Oh, and "asshole".

    I am here because I feared I had character flaws and shortcomings and personality weaknesses such that I couldn't "hack it" within the Borg. Here, I find fellow humans who have articulated my doubts and fears and help me feel normal (whatever the fuck that means). I have read beautifully researched documents verifying the corruption I felt but could not possibly have the opportunity to prove to myself. (Maximus rocks.) I feel such gratitude to those who spend the time to post these things, as well as the outpouring of feelings and experiences and outrage. The efforts of those (Jang, Francoise, Metatron, et al) to expose the disgusting coverup of child abuse and alleviate the after-affects of survivors are impossible to praise highly enough.

    My heart sinks reading Farkle's sentiments... and many lurk here and are simply afraid to post (I realize my hands are still shaking). I'm kind of lucky, being a woman with no perceived status; I'm entirely aware of my inability to control anything outside of my immediate home environment, so I don't try, and it is incredible freedom.

    Say whatever the fuck you want, you dickheads and white trash bitches, because I want to read it. I may not agree with you, but I'll never try to prevent you from existing.

    Scared but addicted to risk-taking behavior,

    lauralisa

    From childhood's hour
    I have not been as other were
    I have not seen as others saw
    I could not bring my passions from
    a common spring (EAPoe)

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Larc,

    I'm a grandma. :)

    I post here because of finding so many people who have been through the same experience and have an understanding of what it's like. There's a lot of camaraderie.

    I also love to read newsy, perceptive posts by so many and help me to never fall into the same trap again.

    Pat

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