Cost of War

by teejay 135 Replies latest social current

  • teejay
    teejay
    Yeah really, I would like to know what they are thinking about THAT ...

    Questions like : Can you agree ? Because of what ?

    Well, the consensus among Bush supporters is that, yeah... the $140 billion (and counting), the 10,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, the 1,000+ coalition deaths and thousands of casualties has all been worth it. Why? Because Saddam Hussein was a very bad man.

    And please not forget: the Iraqis are free!!

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    LOL ... teejay ... I've heard that before (= President propaganda)

    I was talking about what they know NOW about the hidded WHY's of this war ... (of course)

  • teejay
    teejay
    I was talking about what they know NOW about the hidded WHY's of this war ... (of course)

    Hate to lay a "just like a JW" analogy on 'em, but hey... if the shoe fits...

    As we all know... lots of long-time JWs either know for a fact or deeply suspect they've been had. What do they do? Most of 'em just keep going to the meetings, keep raising their hand at the WT study giving the same answers they've given since childhood, keep claiming loyalty to Jehovah's Mouthpiece? -- muttering under their breaths the whole time. To admit, after 35, 40, 45, 50 years that they are wrong... well... that's something their pride just won't let them do.

    Republicans are the same way.

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    Teejay : To admit, after 35, 40, 45, 50 years that they are wrong... well... that's something their pride just won't let them do.

    Yeah I know ... still it's so sad ... for everybody (why wasting all that time and all those lives ? ... hard to hear, hard to see, hard to bear ...)

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Cost of Freedom and Democracy, Priceless!

    (Whats in your wallet?)

    Think of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence in 1776. Individually, each of them had more to lose than to gain in a revolution. Most of them were already men of standing in their communities, highly educated and owners of substantial property. John Hancock, the richest man in America, became a wanted man, with a price of ,500 on his head. They did not choose to revolt; they merely wanted to be treated the same as other Englishmen were in England. And they all knew that the penalty for treason was death by hanging.

    Each signer became a marked man, pursued relentlessly by the British retribution. None who had property or family were spared. Most lived to see their families killed or separated forever and their property sacked. Nine signers died of wounds or hardships during the war. Many died in poverty-the fathers of our country! Their pledge-"our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor"-was no idle boast. The cost of freedom is incalculable.

    The cost of freedom? Worth any price, because nothing can substitute for it. Nothing!

    Patrick Henry??s words are as prudent today as they were in 1775.

    ""Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in a country as that which we posses, are invincible by any force our enemy may send against us??The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone, it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave??Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!""
  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    Tchi Tchi,

    Cost of Freedom and Democracy, Priceless!

    With who's LIFES ???? (please )

    (What do you have in your wallet?)

    Now this answer is priceless !!!

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Frecchbabyface:

    This speech was given in France.....do you know who gave the speech? I think of the US-Bush effort in IRAQ when critics speak...

    "...It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat...."

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    Thanks for the speach TchiTchi
    as it is all about that :

    (as a resume of it all)

    "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena",

    why not telling that to your soldiers who suicide ... What about you taking there place over there !!!

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    I have family over there. My dearest blood....You miss the point...I am not a critic of what freedom brings...however, It seem that you are.

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    TchiTchi : I wasn't talking about freedom, but you seems to want to stick on it ! (to make it short)

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