Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-24-04 WT Study

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  • jgnat
    jgnat

    What is the Watchtower emphasis?

    Eph 6:12

    (ASV)
    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places .

    (BBE)
    For our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against authorities and powers, against the world-rulers of this dark night, against the spirits of evil in the heavens.

    (Darby)
    because our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual power of wickedness in the heavenlies.

    (KJV+)
    For 3754 we2254 wrestle2076, 3823 not3756 against4314 flesh4561 and2532 blood,129 but235 against4314 principalities,746 against4314 powers,1849 against4314 the3588 rulers2888 of the3588 darkness4655 of this5127 world,165 against4314 spiritual4152 wickedness4189 in1722 high2032 places.

    (NWT) We have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.

    principalities-authorities-principalities-principalities-governments

    G746 ar-khay'From G756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, pr

    G2888 kos-mok-rat'-oreFrom G2889 and G2902; a world ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.

    It seems clear to me that if we are not involved in flesh-and-blood fighting, that the spiritual battle is in the spiritual realms. I think the Watchtower society is the one who has made the fight personal, pointing fingers at other people and organizations for their woes. Those who spend their lives pointing fingers have little time to examine their own faults. Their time would be better spent searching out their own hearts for the wickedness.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    para. 9 Spiritual dangers have proliferated in this time of the end. We live in a world where material pursuits override spiritual goals....And the majority have become ?lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God.?

    Really? What evidence do they provide to back up this assertion? There is also evidence that the opposite is happening, and our new youth have a greater interest in spirituality. As it is with new generations, however, they are making their faith their own.

    Reporting on the ?New Faithful? in America

    by Colleen Carroll Campbell
    http://www.facsnet.org/issues/faith/carroll.php
  • jgnat
    jgnat

    What is the WT emphasis?

    1Pe 5:9

    (ASV)
    whom withstand stedfast in your faith, knowing that the same sufferings are accomplished in your brethren who are in the world.

    (BBE)
    Do not give way to him but be strong in your faith, in the knowledge that your brothers who are in the world undergo the same troubles.

    (Darby)
    Whom resist, stedfast in faith, knowing that the selfsame sufferings are accomplished in your brotherhood which is in the world.

    (KJV+) Whom 3739 resist436 steadfast4731 in the3588 faith,4102 knowing1492 that the3588 same846 afflictions3804 are accomplished2005 in your5216 brethren81 that are in1722 the world.2889

    (NWT) But take your stand against him, solid in the faith, knowing that the same things in the way of suffering are being accomplished in the entire association of your brothers in the world.

    G5286 hoo-mone' Genitive case of G5210; of (from or concerning) you: - ye, you, your (own, -selves).

    G81 ad-el-fot'-ace From G80; brotherhood (properly the feeling of brotherliness), that is, (the (Christian) fraternity: - brethren, brotherhood.

    Main Entry: as·so·ci·a·tion Function: noun 1 a : the act of associating b : the state of being associated : COMBINATION, RELATIONSHIP 2 : an organization of persons having a common interest : SOCIETY 3 : something linked in memory or imagination with a thing or person 4 : the process of forming mental connections or bonds between sensations, ideas, or memories 5 : the aggregation of chemical species to form (as with hydrogen bonds) loosely bound complexes 6 : a major unit in ecological community organization characterized by essential uniformity and usually by two or more dominant species

    In my JW husband's briefcase is an "Association List". The rest of the world would call it a phone directory. Though my husband has faithfully attended this congregation for these past three years, and is a baptized Jehovah's Witness, his name is not on the list. He is not yet proved himself worthy of association.

    Association - is it one of those Jehovah's Witness "trigger words" that the Watchtower Society has taken over for their own use? Is such a distinguishing between brothers even Christian behavior? This article implies that only those "brothers" who make the magic phone directory have protection against Satan.

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    sorry about the puter problems.

    would someone with power delete a few of these please?

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