If you were Disfellowshipped for Apostasy - would you tell us the details?

by confusedjw 9 Replies latest jw experiences

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    How you got nabbed? Who turned you in - family / friend? How they handled the JC? Did the CO get involved? What the nature of your apostasy was? Was it what you said over and over or was it what you were suspected of thinking? Did you get caught reading CoC?

    Finally - How has your DFing affected your family and self?

    Whatever your story was/is.

    I am very curious about this and I think a collection would be very educational to defining "apostasy" in practical DFing terms.

    Might make a nice addition to the Best of....

  • unbeliever
    unbeliever

    Very good topic! *bump*

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    Anyone? No takers?

  • Frannie Banannie
  • Narkissos
  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    Frannie - sorry. I don't think I could have tolerated the brothers as you described them.

    Nark: This sounds interesting. Would you fill in the details? What in God's name could you be counseled on for speaking too much of Jesus? What were you guys saying to get attention drawn? What year was this?

    Thanks

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie
    Frannie - sorry. I don't think I could have tolerated the brothers as you described them.

    Confusedjw, I couldn't tolerate 'em either....belatedly, I wished I'd mooned the C.O. that gave that infamous talk and the whole congregation as they sat there....and then walked out in the middle of it.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    cjw,

    I'll try to sum it up again (already told parts of the story on various threads, but it is difficult to find and put it together).

    It was in 1986.

    I had previously been working for 5 years as a translator in the French Branch Bethel. Over the last few months there I began reading the Bible (and especially the NT) again, as if I read it for the first time. I was fascinated by Jesus' character and christology in general. I had some close friends there with whom I could discuss it pretty freely (strange as it may seem).

    I resigned from Bethel and asked to resume my previous special pioneer assignment. I was finally sent in this Portuguese cong. in Paris, together with this friend I had met in Bethel. Another coincidence: we both had separately concluded, from independent experiences, that we should partake in the next Memorial (we just happened to discuss this together the very day I left Bethel). So we did, and this triggered the whole thing I guess.

    In the meantime we served as "very special pioneers" in this cong., using the WT literature less and less and the Bible more and more. We had a number of "Bible studies", within and without the congregation, which were really "Bible studies": reading the Gospels or Epistles with people, and letting them express what they felt. This was very interesting, and unusual, but it was not formally forbidden and we really didn't say anything against the organization as far as I remember. There was a third special pioneer in this congregation, and she was very interested in our approach. She probably was unwittingly instrumental in the judicial process because she spoke a lot about it. Anyway that was due to happen sometime.

    I guess our stand in Memorial was really what determined the Bethel to have us df'd. As this was not sufficient grounds, they organized it as I told on the other post (first the two CO's and elders summoning us, then JC and appeal). The only thing they could blame us first was to "speak too much about Jesus"; then they made up a JC and had us answer to the preset list of questions (1914, the FDS, the "two hopes"...) by yes or no. We were done.

  • ApagaLaLuz
    ApagaLaLuz

    I will share via PM

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    Nark - amazing. Honestly.

    Appaloosa gal - looking forward to hearing from you!

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