Today, I'm Going To Bring The "Crisis of Conscience "Book To My Mother

by minimus 70 Replies latest jw friends

  • minimus
    minimus

    My mother is not anointed.....Today, in talking to her, she recounted how an elder said a certain elder from another Hall was at my daughter's wedding. I said, "That's not true". She said, "Well, HE'S an elder and that's what he said". My response, "Mom, he was NOT there.". Her comment, "Well, since you left Jehovah, what would make me think you wouldn't lie or decieve me?".....I told her that I couldn't believe her response!! She, in turn said, rather coldly, "Well, like I said, why should I think YOU'D be truthful not that you don't have Jehovah?"....Very, very disillusioning.

  • unbeliever
    unbeliever

    Are you still sure she will not turn you into the elders? It would come down to her word against yours since she does not have another witness. Your damned if you do damned if you don't. Your 2 choices are call your mom a liar or get DF'd since you are not keeping your "apostate" views private. I hope it does not come down to that.

  • kj
    kj

    I'm sorry, Minimus. That has got to be hard to have your mom talk to you like that. Continue to show her your unconditional love, the elders will show their true colors again soon enough. Your poor mom.

    kj

  • minimus
    minimus

    today's experience showed that you never know what could happen. When your own mother takes sides with an uninformed elder that wasn't even there, just because he's a JW, it's truly disconcerting. Oh well.

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    mini: now wait a minute. didn't you and your mom go to the wedding? so this elder went and no one saw him? or did i miss something? this is getting wacky. i can't see how you can hold your head. john

  • one
    one

    min,

    done that, been there..

    The comment, even if from your own mother, is no surprise to me, get ready for your next " disconcerting" or surprise. JW don't stop at that just when you thing you have heard and seen everything, real presassure and a controlled mind can show the next level of (you guess)

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    MIN, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO BACK OFF. DON'T DISCUSS ANYTHING RE. RELIGION OR INDIVIDUAL JW'S.

    TREAT HER WITH LOVE AND KINDNESS AND IGNORE THE THINGS THAT ARE BOTHERING YOU RIGHT NOW.

    IN HER MIND JEHOVAH = WBTS ARE OMNIPOTENT AND NOT CAPEABLE OF ERRORS, MUCH LESS OUTRIGHT HYPOCRISY.

    AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS, SHE WILL NEED TIME TO MAKE HER "OWN" DECISIONS ABOUT THIS CULT.

    GIVE THEM TIME AND HOPEFULLY THE ELDERS WILL HANG THEMSELVES.

    Outoftheorg

  • minimus
    minimus

    Out, I tend to agree with you. See what happens though, is SHE begins to ask me questions, mention negatives and then of course SHE has to wrestle with them.....John, yes my mother was at that wedding of nearly 200 people at a $130 a head. Believe me, I know who was there and who wasn't. That's why this is so silly.

  • Bubbamar
    Bubbamar

    Min - unless your mom has had a total psychotic break - on some level she KNOWS the elder was not at the wedding. Maybe he was in his car spying - but not AT the wedding. I think I'd just agree with her - "yes, mom, I know he was at the wedding. I saw him there with my own 2 eyes." Then let her deal with her confused reality. I might also remind her how important it is for her to pioneer - that it is a command from Jesus/God/GB - that they are not letting her fulfill a clearly stated commandment because of one of their NOT clearly stated rules.

    It sounds like she is making a little progress -- you know sometimes its "1 step forward and 2 steps back."

  • Balsam
    Balsam

    Minimus,

    Know it is hard dealing with someone elses ignorance, even if it is a parent we love. People believe what they want wheither it is true or not. I used to say to my family "you can believe what you want but you are wrong" and leave it at that. I just would not engage in a dispute with them when they were pig headed and just plain stupid talking. So far I have won over all those important to me. Hope your Mom wises up. I gather she has never even picked up the COC and read any of it.

    Balsam

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