Signs of Discouragement in the Org.

by JH 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • JH
    JH

    Most witnesses I knew were always positive thinking that the end was just around the corner, and that all your troubles were unimportant because the end was so close.

    Did you know any JW's or even elders who gave signs of discouragement because nothing was happening like they expected?

  • kwintestal
    kwintestal

    I knew an elder in Niagara Falls area who stepped down because of the "generation" change. He still went to meetings, but it was publicly known why he stepped down. Would that qualify as a sign of discouragement?

    Kwin

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    A fellow JW who was never DF told me that the JW would alway be seen on the street where she lives and now they are not see but very rarely. This area where she lives in Conneticut use to have lots of pioneers,,so that indicates this are really slowing down there in Waterbury.

  • Gill
    Gill

    Yes! One very elderly relative of my husband, she's 91, always told everyone that she would never die.

    She complained bitterly and heart brokenly when the policy changed in '95.

    I now can imagine how she felt, which I couldn't at the time. Her whole world had collapsed around her. Her dreams and horizons had changed dramatically. She is now sadly accepting that she is going to die.

    I feel for her very much! Her house had been built on sand and been swept away from under her. At the time she was about 82 and for all her life she had been told, baring illness or accident that she would never die!

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Gill,

    Wow she is still alive at 91 after 9 years of disappointment,, she must really want to live,,or have some pretty good health.

  • kwintestal
    kwintestal
    I feel for her very much! Her house had been built on sand and been swept away from under her. At the time she was about 82 and for all her life she had been told, baring illness or accident that she would never die!

    And I too feel for her and the millions of others who still feel that. My mom is convinced that she will never die. My grandmother was too, but now she's wasted away to the point she's in a consant care facility and has no memory of anything. At least she'd not able to dwell on the fact that she will soon die.

    Kwin

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic
    Most witnesses I knew were always positive thinking that the end was just around the corner, and that all your troubles were unimportant because the end was so close.

    Yeah positively thinking that the old goat? at the door was going to be destroyed at Armegedon. That kind of positive thinking is what's sinking the ship IMHO. The main thing I notice about the JW's when speaking to them is how negitave they are about everything outside of their own brain washed JW-think and that is wishing destruction on everyone who doesn't agree with them. They are real downers to be around.

  • Tigerman
    Tigerman

    In 1973 local elders convinced my wife that THE END was going to happen in 1975; she joined up -God bless her heart - I guess it really was the end because we divorced in 1975.

  • Poztate
    Poztate
    Yes! One very elderly relative of my husband, she's 91, always told everyone that she would never die.

    She complained bitterly and heart brokenly when the policy changed in '95.

    Hi Gill,

    I know this was a HUGE source of discouragement back in 95. My father used to "cheer me up" all the time with the news that Jehovah was going to kill me soon if I didn't mend my evil ways and come back to the truth? He used all of the "generation WT's" to show how close we were to the battle of A.

    He told me, son...I am really old but if I watch my health and take care of myself I EXPECT to live into the new order?

    Guess what...they added "new light" to the generation teaching(one paragraph) and POOF 50 years of hope was gone.

    My father died the following year.I think a lot of his life was sucked out of him with this "minor adjustment" from the FDS

    Poz.

  • Pole
    Pole

    The trouble is most JWs are conditioned not to admit being discouraged. Even if it requires fooling themselves. They'd rather blame themselves than the org.

    I think the fact that a lot of JWs (especially men) start to have problems with drinking (at least here) is indicative of some sort of implicit frustration. That's how they react. They sink their frustration in alcohol.

    Pole

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