by truthseeker 33 Replies latest jw friends
I would of responded to this post, but I don't have a big enough staff to help out. SOOOOOOO.... I am having one of my interns do it for me. He will dictate for me. Hi Guys!
There...... Hey, who do you think I am, some multimillion dollar publishing company that actually has enough resources to complete the weighty task of publishing an itemized listing of statistics. It's not like the Watchtower concerns itself with numbers here.
Maybe the guy who knows how to compile the numbers in to the computer retired, and the leadership had forgot to plan for his replacement.
Agreed, they have problems getting competent people at Bethel BUT
SOMETHING is going on here that isn't being admitted by the Society.
First, we're given a story that, despite decades of persecution, natural disasters, war and internal problems
they can't get the reports from a few 'tardy' countries ( also despite faxes, the internet, satellites, etc.).
Now, the 'explanation' says, in effect, 'we really had the stats - because they got published somewhere in Europe,
but we didn't find the time to put together the biggest issue of the year in English'. It doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Read Crisis of Conscience! What was it that forced the Governing Body to finally admit that something went
wrong with 1975 chronology? STATISTICS! This and this alone FORCED them to issue a feeble "almost but not
quite an apology" for starting the whole mess. These people almost WORSHIP the NUMBERS. If they come
in weak - with more weakness emerging- it's an earthquake.
metatron
Lack of manpower and expansion at Dumbo somehow don't jive.
It is not only 2004. I got hold of a WT today and there is a box that says that beginning this year the annual report will be published in the Feb 1st edition.
This explanation sounds pretty smelly to me. When I was in last in NY (mid-2003), Brooklyn Bethel was actually "encouraging" people to leave because they were overstaffed.
Anyone remember the deal with the blood-cards that allowed autologous transfusions? My 'inside scoop', direct from a Bethel elder, was that they were pulled because of a printing error.
So I wouldn't trust anything a Bethel elder says in this situation. He is either: a) spinning you, or b) being spinned and passing the bullshit on to you.
P.S. Kennson wrote:
Lack of manpower and expansion at Dumbo somehow don't jive.I don't think they're actually expanding at Dumbo, I think they're consolidating. A lot of the senior bethelites have rooms in brownstones and small apartment buildings throughout the Heights. The Society can make good money by selling these buildings and consolidating everybody into one residence (which in turn they'll be able to flip for an even greater profit if they eventually leave Brooklyn altogether).
Here's the figures:
ZERO % INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE WHOLE WORLD
They simply don't have enough staff at the US Branch, because the annual report is already available in some European countries.
I find it very hard to believe. Normally, before any official WTS literature is published in Europe, it first gets translated from English. It's impossible to print the annual WORLDWIDE report in the Romanian, French, or Spanish WT if they don't have the original figures sent in English from NY.
It's all gossip. I mean what sort of staff do they lack??? And which European edition of the WT published it earlier than others despite the official notice that beginning from 2004 all yearly reports will be published in teh February issue...
Pole
Ok, let me clarify a few points.
The ministerial servant definitely told me that an elder said there was manpower and manangement issues at Brooklyn Bethel.
The annual report is out in a few European countries, though likely he meant that the Branch insiders know the report, and what the figures are, rather than them being published in European watchtowers.
I too, fail to see what connection there is between bad manangement and staff shortages, and the release of the annual report in the Jan 1st issue.
This is unprecedented though - what possible reason could they have for putting the report in a later issue? I mean, the tax year ends in December, but the service year ends in August. They have aa full 4 months to get those figures in, and you know how they all moan at everyone to put their report in.
I don't understand what is going on with DUMBO either. I mean, they just sold 360 Furman Street for close to $200 million, moved a lot of staff and the printing dept to Patterson, and now they want to build MORE residential apartments?
For who? Why? What will they do in Brooklyn? Why not just build more apts. at their Patterson complex?
RE: DUMBO, it is confusing isn't it?
It makes one wonder if they (or at least certain ones of "they") haven't decided to go from fairly passive, (yet wildly successful), "grow Bethel" investment in prime NYC real estate, to ACTIVE, agressive real estate developement, under the guise of expanding Bethel. Sure, they make a mint when they sell a property, but the person who develops that property makes Ft knox.
The city lets them do what it would let no one else do, and people from around the world are banging down their door to give them free labor and expertise.
ps... just read Euph's comments above, and this jives well with that speculation
