Famous Atheist Now Believes in God

by MegaDude 73 Replies latest jw friends

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    He still believes in evolution. He just thinks that some kind of super intelligence, a nebulous force of some kind started it off somehow.

    S

  • flower
    flower

    And would you like to back your statement up with some type of reason??

    B

    actually i am doing other things tonight as well so i've chosen to give my opinion without a lengthy explanation. relax kid.

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    Many people who've had a horrendous experience with religion deal with it by dismissing the idea of a creator. Totally understandable. The corrupt institutions that franchise God to the masses make it easy and desireable to be an atheist or agnostic. Just like George Bush makes Americans want to be Canadian.

  • heathen
    heathen

    logansrun-- Here I quote the paragraph

    I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins," he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."

    Since I feel the christian God and the God of Islam hate each other so much that the only way for them to be far from each other would be somewhere in the middle . So what's the friggen difference in being an atheist if all you're going to do is make up your own God anyway ? The bible God has been around way longer than the Islam God so personally I think I would side with that and I do understand the bible for the most part, it at least has some very interesting prophesy of the future that is not in the Koran .

  • flower
    flower
    Many people who've had a horrendous experience with religion deal with it by dismissing the idea of a creator. Totally understandable. The corrupt institutions that franchise God to the masses make it easy and desireable to be an atheist or agnostic. Just like George Bush makes Americans want to be Canadian.

    and still others deal with a horrendous experience with religion by removing blind faith and looking for factual proof of a creator. i agree with Flew wholeheartedly when he said that the burden of proof is on the thiests side of the argument. as if in a court of law, where the prosecutor who believes someone to be guilty must prove it... not the other way around. i dont dismiss the idea of a creator. i simply await the proof of it.

  • Nicolas
    Nicolas

    I believe the samething than flower. He changed his thought because he see his death approaching quickly. Sometimes, when you can't accept the absurdity of our life, you just decide to relay on a "superpower", to give some meaning to this otherwise meaninless life. But, by the way, why would we need a meaning for our life. Life is just life as it is, I don't think that it need any other explanations.

  • GentlyFeral
    GentlyFeral
    Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England.
    Yet biologists' investigation of DNA "has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved," Flew says in the new video, "Has Science Discovered God?"

    I don't believe that the evolution of life requires planning any more than the evolution of civilizations requires planning. I think improvisation is a much more powerful force for order than most people realize.

    As a theist, I'm disappointed. But then, those studies that purported to "prove" the "efficacy" of prayer made my teeth curl, too. I don't actually want this stuff proved. Not sure why.

    Gently Feral

  • googlemagoogle
    googlemagoogle

    @heathen: the bible-god and the quran-god are the very same. that's why islam views jews and christians as "on the right way, but still wrong". and that guy dismisses all jehovah/allah-style gods.

    @flower & nicolas: as already said - he doesn't believe in afterlife, thus it can't be the fear of death that makes him change his mind. but seems like flower has "not enough time" to let us know the reason why she thinks otherwise.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Heathen:
    The God of the OT isn't vastly different from Allah.
    Personally that doesn't phase me in the slightest, as I think that the writers of spiritual literature were expressing their experience in life as related to their impressions of the "Divine".
    Flew doesn't believe in either of them, but that doesn't place him in-between the camps, rather on a far edge.

    Gently:I don't think Flew was necessarily advocating that God had a hand in manipulating every molecule into life, but rather that He was the "First Cause" that started the ball rolling. Wasn't Darwin also in this camp?

    Flower:
    (((hugs))) How're you doing girl?
    It's been an age since we caught up

  • Dansk
    Dansk
    I still like the outrageous hypothesis that WE are God -- WE being the collective consciousness

    Bradley,

    I believe that is nearer the point!

    Ian

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