Ken said, "As far as morals go, I guess we let our conscience be our guide. I try not to judge others by my conscience. It feels good to do something just because it feels right, not because of some rule or trying to please some deity."
!!!! It's SO nice to hear this from others' lips! This is why I sought and continue to want the company of other exes. It's really helpful to know others who have followed their conscience to the same conclusion.
When I was deTowering, I asked several JWs this: what about a moral imperative, what about doing what's right JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING, without fear of punishment or hope of reward? And it was literally as if I had lapsed into a foreign tongue! Every JW I talked to denied the very existence of the carrots and sticks the Society uses to keep the r&f in harness. Dialogue about the inedible nature of the plastic carrot, or the lead used to weight the blackjack, was impossible, since they wouldn't admit to being harnessed and blindered, flogged with guilt, and hitched with chains to the Tower's millstone of an ideology. Or if they did admit it, they claimed it was a GOOD thing, a protection from Jehovah, to be so bound and beaten.
Tica, you are right, some exes do seem to still have a prob with black/white thinking. I think that these ones may have never had a 'crisis of conscience'. Having gotten accustomed to having all conscience matters decided for them by WT sources, they have never had much chance to develop critical thinking skills and individual responsibility for their thoughts/actions. It's a learned skill after all. Paranoia is endemic among JWs, as is the smug arrogance of the certainty of Jdub superiority. Unless we work at changing that dynamic, we may carry over all the bad suspicious arrogant habits we absorbed from the Tower into our post-Tower lives.
And of course some exes will never give a rat's ass about growing a genuine conscience to replace the package Brooklyn supplied; these ones will always disappoint. Not everyone wants to grow and learn to be personally responsible. You can take the dub out of the cult can you take the cult out of the ex-dub? Not unless the ex-dub WANTS to change...
Just Mommie's opinion, worth exactly 2 cents on the open market