Wildfire, I hope you get the relationship you want with your family. But you know how things are and that your son in-law may be protecting his children from the possibility of you not protecting them if they were around you. I have a friend who did really try for a relationship with her mother after years of abuse (they aren't JWs) She wanted her kids to know their grandmother. It was a tough situation for her and I saw her pain almost daily. Maybe your daughter needs reassurances of love from you for awhile before she can take the next step. Causing her grief won't help (I think you know that). And by your letter I see how much you love her. Don't let her forget that love and also your patience for her to heal. Sometimes giving those we love the time that they need and patience is the greatest expression of love we show them. I wish the best for you and your family.