reinstatement

by sugarbritches 37 Replies latest jw friends

  • gumby
    gumby
    I thought this forum was for anyone wanting to make JW related comments. Ex-JWs benefit from the mutual support this site provides but active JWs with doubts and legitimate concerns benefit as well. Don't discourage active JWS from coming here and learning that their negative JW experiences are not unique and from learning the truth about the WTS. Thank you very much!

    FM

    Fairmind....I don't recall saying anything to discourage witnesses from coming here. I WANT JW's coming here....I was simply wondering why someone wouldn't just ask their local elders rather than an ex-witness site.

    Gumby

  • sugarbritches
    sugarbritches

    HI Gumby--- the reason is simple. I am not aJW- my friend is- the one that won't talk to me because the elders consider me bad association. I was just curious what the procedure was for reinstatement. From here on, I will only be lurking- this forum is very theraputic for me.But each time I post someone acts just like the elders at the local KIngdom Hall where I used to have a Bible Study. So i will be reading and learning and growing but not posting. I"m trying to heal- posts like yours only reopens the wounds.God Bless- Sugarbritches

  • stopthepain
    stopthepain

    sorry about your plight sugarbritches.If your friend only could know how much you care!!!! I hate the term bad assosiation,what a crock,and a tool for mind control.I'm new here to and ive already been called a cry babie negative person.I hope you don't punish us all for 1 persons negative comment.No one here knows you or knows why you post ,and no one should question it either!!!!I hope your friend comes around.

    good luck---STP

  • gumby
    gumby
    I hope you don't punish us all for 1 persons negative comment.No one here knows you or knows why you post ,and no one should question it either

    I didn't make a NEGATIVE comment....I only asked a question that seemed reasonable. It wasn't mentioned the poster wasn't a witness till now. Can we all kiss and make up now?

    So sorry if I offended you britches.

    Gumby

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    HEY SUGAR B. wait a minute! Don't leave,

    Gumby is a little grumpy at times but he/she means well.

    After all how can you blame him/ her/ it? Just look at him, it's got to be hard to be a little green grump and get along in this awful x'jw atmosphere.

    We'd all like you to stick around. OK ???

    Outoftheorg

  • sugarbritches
    sugarbritches

    Okay thanks guys. I guess I am a little too sensitive tonight. I didn't make my position really clear in my post this is true. Thanks Gumby and everyone- I will continue to post. My heart gets in the way sometimes-- I'm trying to heal and to be a stronger person. But it's a long slow painful journey. Again, thanks--

  • gumby
    gumby

    Gumby

  • 144001
    144001
    I am not aJW- my friend is- the one that won't talk to me because the elders consider me bad association.

    The obvious conclusion to be drawn from this is that the person you refer to as a "friend," is not a friend at all. This person's like/respect for you is subject to the edicts of the cult that this so-called "friend" follows, as well as the directives of said cult's management.

    I had a very similar experience to yours. I got into some minor trouble with the local police when I was still attending the meetings (I was never baptized). I came home one day from shopping with mom to find a gathering of elders in our living room, wanting to speak with me. They threatened to disassociate me unless I terminated all association with a person who was my closest friend, who was the unbaptized son of a family in our congregation. I still remember the words of the jerk elder who led the inquiry, "you're this close to having your name announced from the platform." (spoken while holding thumb and forefinger closely together and put very close to my face) I laughed in their faces, told them I could care less if anyone from the congregation ever spoke to me again, because "they're all a bunch of f*%king idiots." I also told them I wouldn't honor their demands in even the smallest way.

    They never disassociated me, mabye because my father was PO and also because they knew it wouldn't have any adverse effect on me. The person they told me to stay away from remains my closest friend, 25 + years after the JWs threatened me to stop associating with him. He stopped attending about the same time I did, and to me, he is the brother I never had. I could not ask for a better friend. I'm so glad I was wise enough at the time to understand the game and not let the Watchtower Corporation Cult ruin another aspect of my life.

    The point I'm making is, you need to say "goodbye," to that person who purports to be your friend, but has demonstrated that such "friendship," if you can call it that, is conditional in nature. "Comply with the cult or I'm not your friend!" What kind of friend is that?

  • sugarbritches
    sugarbritches

    Hi 144001,-- You are so right- he's not my friend at all. I don't understand how he can act like i don't exist when we have known each other for so many years. The elders tell him to jump and he says where. I should be really angry at him- but mostly all i feel is hurt. That may change one day. Maybe one day he will see the light- but i doubt that that will happen. He is totally controlled by the elders and the society. Thanks for your post-

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    well if he is seriously wanting to go back, then he knows he must break ties with you.. because 'non JW' association is discouraged.. sad to say..

    sorry if all your posts haven't been received warmly.. Please stick around and get to know us. I think you might warm up to us after a while..

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