And to think, right now, Intelligent Design is being taught in our schoolrooms, further enshrouding young minds in ignorance. And for what? Does believing humanity is 6,000 years old make anyone a better human being? Does insisting every last variety of animal *POOF* and appeared guarantee salvation?
Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ for Evolution Theory
by hawkaw 17 Replies latest jw friends
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scholar
Hawkaw
I repeat no transitional vertebrate fossils have been found. Alan F has raised some examples as proof but these are merely speculative claims made by evolutionists. I suggest you consult reference works that actually classify all of those fossils and show their taxonomy which clearly indicate the situation which has remained unchanged since Darwin.
scholar
BA MA Studies in Religion
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Leolaia
I repeat no transitional vertebrate fossils have been found. Alan F has raised some examples as proof but these are merely speculative claims made by evolutionists. I suggest you consult reference works that actually classify all of those fossils and show their taxonomy which clearly indicate the situation which has remained unchanged since Darwin.
I don't know much about biology, so correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you are talking about newfangled phlyogenetic taxonomy (e.g. PhyloCode), Linnean taxonomy is not going to "clearly indicate" anything about shared ancestry and thus the status of certain fossils as transitional forms -- as it is based on synchronic comparison of morphology. I assume you mean Linnean taxonomy because that is what is used in most "reference works".
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hawkaw
Scholar, those finds were not made by evolutionists. Those findings were observed by scientists in the field and subject to peer review. Those independent field observations and lab tests on the field items are used as an independent basis to explain a logical mechanism. As I said before, be very careful with your definitions. Remember, this is science subject and not a religious subject. Religion deals with belief. Your religionist beliefs have no place in science just like science has no place in religion (of course, the only execption to that rule seems to be the WTS's policy on blood which uses science and not the bible to allow for their definitions of what blood parts are acceptable and what parts are not).
hawk
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Midget-Sasquatch
I've finally fixed the link methinks. Here it is:
http://www.origins.tv/darwin/landtosea.htm#Whales
You'll find a nice layout of the mammals that made the transition from land to water and became whales. Click on Ambulocetus or any of them and you'll find some more interesting info on each.
But I suggest you take a look at any photo of Turkana Boy. There's a transitional form if ever I saw one. If you argue that's a modern H.Sapiens from the skeleton from the neck on down, I'd couldn't make out a difference, but that mug says otherwise.
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AlanF
Unscholar said:
: I repeat no transitional vertebrate fossils have been found.
You repeat a lot of nonsense. So what? Repetition for emphasis won't make the nonsense so.
: Alan F has raised some examples as proof but these are merely speculative claims made by evolutionists.
You still don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea what a "transitional fossil" is. If you think you do, then by all means tell us.
: I suggest you consult reference works that actually classify all of those fossils and show their taxonomy which clearly indicate the situation which has remained unchanged since Darwin.
What reference works are you talking about? The Creation book?
AlanF
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hooberus
The following arcticle contains perspecives on the evidence from the fossil record, both for and against evolution and creation.
http://origins.swau.edu/papers/evol/gibson/default.html
Below are some additional arcticles on the fossil record:
http://www.trueorigins.org/camplist.asp#fossil
http://id-www.ucsb.edu/veritas/JOURNEY/phyla.html
http://www.id.ucsb.edu/fscf/library/origins/quotes/Discontinuties.html
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hawkaw
Oh brother, I just got finished reading the one article on did landscape evolve. It is disgusting how people will twist proper erosional processes that are observed in the field today and then completely twist and/or ignore them to prove this big old world is only a few thousand years old.