How to Defeat Disfellowshipping

by metatron 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    People have a right to choose their own associates.
    Likewise, parents should have strong influence over
    who their minor children associate with.

    These truths are a far cry, however from the inept and
    cruel actions of elders, in hunting down, stalking,
    investigating, and judging individuals , while also
    threatening anyone else who disagrees.

    Someone wisely pointed out that you don't give a
    puppy or kitten to a very young child. They may treat
    it as a toy and cause horrible suffering to the
    animal. Likewise, putting organizational shunning power
    in the hands of ignorant, careless men, who
    "screw up" (didn't the Society's representative say
    that?) is unconscionable.

    While disfellowshipping enjoys the protection of
    court precedent, there are some possible ways to fight
    against it - such as:

    Defamation of character or slander - if they are
    foolish enough to widely inform others that you are
    a fornicator/adulterer/unchristian, etc. , you may
    have grounds for a suit. The Society STOPPED TELLING
    THE AUDIENCE WHAT A PERSON IS DF'D FOR years ago
    because of this. A lady in Oklahoma won a judgement
    against her church in the 80's that created the
    precedent.

    If you are employed or legally bound with a contract
    to Witnesses and feel you are being harassed or
    discriminated against, you might consider legal action.
    Court precedent says they can wreck your business,
    but I'd like to see what happens if someone claims
    discrimination because they're gay (in some states).

    Be polite but refuse to slink away. If they feel uneasy
    about your presence, that's their problem. While a
    Kingdom Hall is private property, public areas are
    something else - and your house is still your home.

    If you want to talk with old friends, do it out of
    sight of other Witnesses. Better yet, USE THE INTERNET!
    Many Witnesses are commonly using e-mail and chat rooms
    to speak with anyone they care to. Perhaps they know
    your identity and no one else does.

    Keep telling government officials that Jehovah's
    Witnesses are automatically excommunicated for
    joining any branch of the armed services of that
    nation. Since the elders take action to inform the
    congregation, the claim that they disassociated
    themselves, willingly, is a lie. This needs more
    attention because it could affect tax exemption
    and legal recognition in many places.

    Keep chipping away at this cruel system. Keep in mind
    that the Society (Writing staff included) has known
    for years that their system of "justice" is unscriptural
    but refuses to change it. Like blood, Gentile Times,
    the position of women and countless other doctrines,
    they can't defend their views WITH ANY DEPTH, IN PUBLIC
    VIEW!

    And don't forget,
    you've got the Brooklyn Gerontocrats scared!
    That's why they keep having convention parts
    insisting that you keep on shunning your
    disfellowshipped relatives and friends.

    It's about holding on to power, no matter
    who gets hurt, folks.

    metatron

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Metatron,

    Are you trying to defeat the Bible?

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Nice quip, Sr Fred. Please enlighten us where in the Bible you have in mind?

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "So often, the unpolished
    the disjointed
    Is on its way to the truth
    Ahead of the finished
    the polished."

    Ken Walsh, Sometimes I Weep

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    I defeat disfellowshipping by shunning anyone stupid enough to practice this vile act.

    Cut off your witness relatives until they start acting like humans.

    Joel

  • Disengaged
    Disengaged

    Joelbear,

    Right on! that's what I'm finding I'm going to have to do with self-righteous, pius so called "friends". Who come up with their own version of d'fing if you don't what they consider, with their shallow thinking, tow the "spiritual" line.

    "you missed a meeting, ooh you bad bad bad................. What bunk and bs

    FEELIN BEROEAN "Just making sure!"

  • Flip
    Flip
    Cut off your witness relatives until they start acting like humans.

    Unfortunately Joel, that activity is exactly what those controlling the WTBTS want you to do.

    By doing so, your actions create a self-induced quarantine that automatically blocks the flow of sensory information between former Jehovah’s Witnesses and the actual victims, those who remain with the WTBTS corporation.

    Unless of course, when reverse shunning is used in conjunction with other means as a retaliatory response to demonstrate how childishly vile the loyal WTBTS follower is acting when they do the same towards a fellow human being.

    Remember, current Jehovah's Witnesses are taught shunning is the loving thing to do but is an illusion created by the WTBTS designed to restrict free flow of information that may expose those remaining to the countless errors of WTBTS history, doctrine and dogma.

    Flip

  • Bendrr
    Bendrr

    Joel, I'm suprised to hear you say that. Shunning one's JW family because they shun you is kind of like in Jesus' words: "putting your lamp under a basket". You could try for years and years and may or may not get results, but if you don't try at all you are garanteed no results.
    mike.

    "Well done, Blind Squirrel! You've found an impressive nut!

  • MacHislopp
    MacHislopp

    Hello Metatron,

    You made a good point, against this kind of action.

    In mho, I do believe that Flip statement are very fair

    Reasonable. We don't wish to fall into the same trap!

    Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    I shun my witness family because their influence is dangerous to me. They have ruined their own lives with their sickness and have helped ruin many others by tying them to the Watchtower.

    I will have no part of it any more.

    I stand by my statement that this is the best way to defeat disfellowshipping.

    hugs

    Joel

  • YHWHWho
    YHWHWho

    I've recently been considering this very thing. Not so much as a way to defeat disfellshipping, but more for my own mental health. I was disfellowshipped 22 years ago when I was 19. At this age your really not even a person yet, especially when you've been sheltered from the world. I went 10-12 years without any contact from my family. It was a brutal time. It took a lot of healing over the years. Now I see my parents once a year at family reunion time, and I might get a call sometime during the year. Now I have to heal those wounds over and over again. I'm seriously entertaining the idea of stopping this madness. I don't want to punish my family or crusade against the Jehovah's, I just want to heal completly.

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