Why? I have to ask...

by AGuest 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest 'MOM and FCall... peace and love to you both, to time indefinite! You KNOW that is from my heart.

    Dearest Gopher... may you have peace... and you are absolutely right in your observations. I have been able to state such myself. That is why religion is SO reprehensible: rather then OPENING the 'Way' into the kingdom of the heavens, they have been quite instrumental in 'shutting it up' before men.

    And I will TRY to keep my posts and responses brief, for you are not the only one who has made this statement. Please forgive my long-windedness.

    I bid you all peace... to time indefinite!

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Aguest: Because, when the JWs knocked on our door, they could explain, blow-by-blow, step-by-step, book-by-book, chapter-by-chapter, paragraph-by-paragraph, verse-by-verse, canned question by canned question. SO, when we eventually realized that the explainations were mere plausibilities, based on false and twisted information, incomplete facts, false prophecy, mis-quotes, and quotes our of context, we then became cautious and careful about accepting newbies who claim to be able to answer everything. In other words: Once burned, twice shy! - Amazing

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    *yawn*

  • bigboi
    bigboi

    Hey Amaing:

    Yep, we are quite the skeptics now are we. I think we learned that from the WTS as well. All of us were skeptical as hell of anything that didn't come from the good ol boys in Brooklyn. I don't care what it talked about. I guess it was just that deep, huh.

    It really shouldn't be that much of a surprise that ppl who have been through as much as we have because of a religion, should be skeptical of any kind of talk about God. I think we all do pretty well though. Ya know what else, if there is someone lookin down on us up there I think he thinks we're doin pretty damn good too.

    ONE....

    bigboi

    "it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest TMS... may you have peace!

    My I say that my "quaint, but acceptable, first century style salutations" are the result of the fact that although WE may change, my Father and my Lord does not... and that is how THEY speak to me? I just try to relate it as close as I can. And so, I 'give'... what I 'recieve'. If you were to talk to me personally, however, you could get anything from straightest, straight-up white boy speech, to the ghetto-est ebonics YOU have ever heard. Depends... on who I'm with, what I am saying, who I am saying it to/for... and what kind of mood I'm in. I am very diverse, lingually, actually.

    While I might remind you of a sister you knew previously, please don't think that my 'language' changes closer to the 'Memorial', for I eat and drink the flesh and blood of Christ DAILY... and 'keep remembering' it daily... and not just once a year. I do so, as one of the means of remaining 'in union' with my Lord on a daily basis (once a year is insufficient for me, personally). Indeed, as the Israelites had to eat the manna daily in order to stay 'alive' physical, so I do... in order to remain 'alive'... spiritually.

    John 15:1-7
    John 6:56

    If you consider my speech 'sanctimonious', I sincerely apologize and beg your pardon. In fact, I recently had the privilege of interpreting 1 John 4:7-21 into street-speak for some folks who I knew wanted to 'get it'. Wanna hear it? Cool! This is the jist of it:

    "Listen up, homes... let us go on having MUCH love for
    one another 'cause love... is from the Man Upstairs and
    all you dawgs what have love for your peeps has been
    birthed from the Man and gains much knowledge of the Man.

    "The busta' what don't know love ain't knowin' the Man
    because the Man IS love. And we peeped His love because
    He gave HIS Main Man, His 'boy', His Son, Joshua, to all
    of us homies so that we could cop life through dude. Dude,
    He gave love us long before we ever even knew Him, homes,
    so much that He sent His boy to 'cover' for us... get our
    back... when we done wrong. 'Cause we have done wrong.
    Yeah, all of us, homes.

    "So, okay, homes, if this is how the Man loved US...
    then we gotta be down with loving ALL homies... whether
    they run with us or not. Don't matter. Ya'll ain't never
    seen God, but if we have much love for ALL folks, the Man's
    love and spirit stays up in us and hits the heights all up
    in US.

    "And this is how we gain much knowledge, dawg, that we
    and Him are 'here' (pointing two fingers at eyes), and
    got an understandin' between us, because He put HIS
    blood up in us. It's in HERE (thump chest).

    "The homes what says for REAL that Joshua the Chosen One
    is the Son of God remains in bond to God... and God is in
    bond wit him. The Man's love is TRUE, word up.

    "The Man IS love, dawg, and the homes what keeps his bond
    with God, well, then, God keeps his bond wit 'chu. This
    is how love is made TIGHT wit us, that we can face Dude
    straight on when Judgment day busts out on us. 'Cause we
    is like HIM, cuz... ALL heart.

    "Ain't no fear in lovin' folks, dude, 'cause TRUE love...
    the TIGHTEST love... ain't sacred 'o nuthin'. True
    love throws that scary !@^! away, 'cause that !@^! puts
    you in a headlock, keeps you from doin' what you gotta do,
    which is LOVE folks. The one that is scared to love... is
    a busta' for real... and his heart pumps KOOL-AID. Ain't
    no real blood flowin' through there. He's a 'trick'...
    and his love is a joke. But us, dude? We have real love,
    tighter than tight, cause the Man loved us first.

    "So, if any of you dudes start yappin' that yang 'bout
    "I love God", and yet be hatin' on your homies and other
    folks, you's a liar, straight up. 'Cause if you ain't
    having much love for your peeps, who you see all the time,
    you can't belovin' God... who you ain't never set your
    eyeballs on.

    "And word is bond, homes. The Man has spoken, and said
    that the dude what love HIM... GOTS to be loving his
    peeps also. True that, and NO doubt."

    Sound 'sanctimonious' to you, TMS? I can translate if you need. Or you can just read it in whatever 'version' of the Bible you use.

    As for my children, who are also grown, I would never worry about their decisions regarding me. My children KNOW me, and they also have faith. They, too, hear the voice, dear one (and yes, they eat and drink as well - there is no AGE LIMIT on coming to Christ). They're just kinda like the oldest daughter in Dr. Dolittle 2: don't want to be considered 'weird' by folks. Fear of man. They will outgrow that fear, though, unless they purposefully deny that voice. I hope they don't.

    Anyway, don't worry about it. As the saying goes, "all creation is awaiting the revealing of the sons of God." So you will know, sooner or later. In the meantime...

    Peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    So it runs in the family then?? You know there's medication that can deal with this right? Peace out.. G.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dearest Amazing and BigBoi... peace to you both!

    Yes, I absolutely agree. But what some don't realize is that is exactly what they were SUPPOSED to do you... shipwreck your faith. You had no problem believing they WERE the only 'true' religion, in contrast to the many thousands of other religions out there, yes? But now that you have seen through them... you have not only become skeptical of religion (which you well should have), but of GOD.

    Why? He didn't tell you that they were His representatives... THEY told you that.

    Skeptical of religion... of course. By ALL means. Skeptical of God? Based on what... the false teachings of religion? Where is the 'logic' in that, pray tell?

    I am not telling anyone to listen to me. That is not what I have been told to tell people. I am not His 'visible representation on earth'. I am simply telling you to listen to HIM. The very answers that are given ME... can be given any one of you. But 'religion' has taught you that it can't be done. Why? Because none of THEM can do it. And so, while you say you are skeptical... are you not in fact STILL believing them? Do you see a 'pattern' here? A 'purpose' for their false teachings?

    Again, peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Certainly, Naeblis... there is 'medication'. For the 'leaves' of the 'Tree' (of Life), the flesh of my Lord... 'cures' all ailments, yes? Leprosy, flow of blood, bent over-ness, demons, lameness, death... blindess... Hey! You might wanna 'buy' yourself a little bit 'o eyesalve...

    Revelation 3:17

    Peace!

    A slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    I see. You're getting mystical emails from god and I'M the one who needs "eyesalve" So after all these centuries of silence god FINALLY talks to someone one Earth...and what wisdom does he impart???Is it a cure for cancer?? Is it proof of his existence?? Is it a plan to fight war??? No..he says.."listen to me." Wow...umm...there's an insight. Any other messages god wants to impart??? Like...."DOn't listen to Satan!" Another breakthrough!!! Get help my friend. You need it.

  • TMS
    TMS

    Dear Shelby:

    Its no crime for you to adopt the style of writing you love so much as your own. Writing in a certain "style", whether Dickensesque or Shakespearean or Kirouacian, is nothing new.

    Still, it strikes me as an affectation, a slight impediment to real communication.

    Several years back when Julian Lennon recorded a couple of albums eerily mimmicking his father's work, Paul McCartney encouraged him to record in his own "style".

    Weren't we all a little circumspect when Moroni translated the gold tablets of the Book of Mormon into the phrasing of the KJV?

    About street language: Its not necessary. Allen Iverson speaks English very well, thank you.

    TMS

    ps Now, you've got me searching for my old "Hippie Version" New Testament which came out in the 70's.

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