Both the Watchtower and "You Know" are wrong, wrong, WRONG!

by Schizm 85 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • gumby
    gumby

    Schizm....you ain't a damn sociopath are ya now?

    Every single one of those children that you refer to died because of what their PARENTS did or failed to do. Put the blame where it belongs, Gumby!

    Schizm, how many damn times do I need to remind you that Jehover ain't sposed to kill little boys cuz a what their daddy's did? I've quoted that scripture to you over and over and you never get it. Kids don't suffer from their parents error. I'll bet you $2.50 that the lords book says that.

    But let's suppose that God had only killed the parents and spared their children. Who, then, was supposed to rear those children? Would YOU personally have been willing to bear the burden of responsibility for other people's children, and take them in under your wing? If so, then you need to seriously consider becoming a foster parent.

    Your right Schizm, since god murdered the parents, he might as well murder their children too cuz who the hells gonna take care of the little guys. Maybe the government should go over and kill children today in poorer third world countries since they are starving to death as their parents can't take care of them. Maybe the tsunami children who were left parentless should also be murdered since they are now a burden to others.

    Schizm, you definately give christianity a bad rap with your heartless reasoning. I'm glad you weren't my pa.

    Gumby

  • Blueblades
    Blueblades

    Kill the babies and little ones, but take the virgins for yourselves.Does this make any sense to you?

    Something is very wrong with this book called the Bible, written by men.

  • GetBusyLiving
    GetBusyLiving

    Hey Gumby, I think Christianity gave Christianity a bad rap personally, lol.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Get busy, ..their history doesn't speak well for itself....does it?

    In fairness.....there are many who at least try and follow a Christlike manner of living, whether their belief is valid or not. The sad part is....they all believe non believers are doomed, just like the dubs.Many say that's untrue, but it was a strong point jesus made himself himself.

    BTW....nice to have you here.

    Gumby

  • ko38
    ko38

    Wow if that guy is a jw he realy is more twisted than some psychos you read about.Oh I forgot so are the dubs in general.(beliefs)

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    I feel like singing .

    PUT A LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR HEART

  • Schizm
    Schizm

    Gumby,

    Schizm, how many damn times do I need to remind you that Jehover ain't sposed to kill little boys cuz a what their daddy's did? I've quoted that scripture to you over and over and you never get it. Kids don't suffer from their parents error. I'll bet you $2.50 that the lords book says that.

    As usual you're confusing the matter, Gumby. True, children aren't to be held responsible for the bad things their parents do, but that doesn't save them from having to suffer the ill effects brought on by their parents not having acted responsibly. A child and its welfare ARE the parents responsibility--which is one reason they are called "parents". Adam's offspring aren't accounted as being at fault for their father having disobeyed God, but they unavoidably have had to suffer the consequences of his irresponsible act. Your claim that Adam's offspring are being held accountable for what their father did is nonsense. And, yes, we have considered this point before, but you're simply being unreasonable in refusing to acknowledge the truth of the matter. I've given you comparable examples which demonstrate how a child can be made to suffer as a result of a parent's foolish act, but you've conveniently ignored what I've said. But, I'll say it again anyway. Example #1: It's widely known that while a child is developing inside its mother's womb that serious consequences can result if the mother smokes tobacco etc. Of course nobody, other than you and a few other nincompoops, would blame the child for what has happened. Too, most people would fault the parent, rather than God, for being so foolish as to do something that would harm their own child. Example #2: A child is killed as a result of its parent's reckless driving habits. Who's at fault, the parent or the child? The parent is, of course. Yet, the child had to suffer the consequences of its parent's actions. Again, nobody, other than you and a few other nincompoops, would blame the child for what has happened; and most people would fault the parent, rather than God for the death of the child.

    Even as I've already said, you're confusing the matter. You have no real understanding of what you keep bringing up. God doesn't blame a man's offspring for the bad things the father does. If the father is a theif, then the father is held accountable for being a theif. The child isn't held accountable and punished for the crime the father has committed, nor has Adam's offspring been held accountable and punished for Adam having been disobedient.

    Either you're too dim-witted to understand, or you're nothing but a jokester. Which is it, Gumby? Are you simply a jokester, just having fun by drawing me out with your supposed objections?

    I'd like to think that you're not merely having fun with all of this, but I'm not really sure where you're coming from. Of course there's a third possibility as to why you can't seem to get the point, which has to do with the stand you've chosen to take. Because of the stand you've taken you've got to somehow keep up with the charade, all the while continually trying to convince yourself that you're way of thinking is correct, or otherwise you'll be in a heap of trouble mentally. It would be best for you, Gumby, if you'd come face to face with reality and stop fooling yourself. You're leading a miserable existence, and it will dawn on you sooner or later.

    Schizm

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  • Pole
    Pole

    Schmizm,

    True, children aren't to be held responsible for the bad things their parents do, but that doesn't save them from having to suffer the ill effects brought on by their parents not having acted responsibly. A child and its welfare ARE the parents responsibility--which is one reason they are called "parents".

    You have a big problem fooling yourself. You attempt to use heavily flawed fairy-tale metaphors to explain the actions of the All-Not-So-Mighty. THe difference between a parent and God is that the latter makes the rules and can change them if they turn out to be a disaster. He is law.

    Example #1: It's widely known that while a child is developing inside its mother's womb that serious consequences can result if the mother smokes tobacco etc. Of course nobody, other than you and a few other nincompoops, would blame the child for what has happened. Too, most people would fault the parent, rather than God, for being so foolish as to do something that would harm their own child.

    Silly metaphor 1B: You are the baby's doctor and the owner of a drug company. You have access to expensive drugs which might remove the effects of his mother's smoking. Instead of helping the child you say you have a plan of helping him real soon, but you don't even care to prove it beyond doubt. You keep explaining it away by giving some beaurocratic reasons. By the way, you own the company and you devised the whole beaurocracy. Worse still, the child grows up not believing in your offer after being told the same promises over and over again. Who is guilty of complacency?

    Example #2: A child is killed as a result of its parent's reckless driving habits. Who's at fault, the parent or the child? The parent is, of course. Yet, the child had to suffer the consequences of its parent's actions. Again, nobody, other than you and a few other nincompoops, would blame the child for what has happened; and most people would fault the parent, rather than God for the death of the child.

    Silly metaphor 2B: You are a driver passing by just after the accident took place. You see that the child is still alive and the parent is lying there uncoscious. But it's obvious that the parent is responsible for the accident so you don't even bother to call the ambulance. Are you guilty of complacency or are you not?

    I feel really embarrassed having to make up your type of silly stories. As we waste our time arguing over this fallacious bulshit, hundreds of children are starving to death. Of course at the very same moment God is sitting on the galactic clouds picking his nose as his heart is being "filled with joy by those who serve him". Yeah, if he exists then he must be the greatest psychopath of the Universe. He derives pleasure from the meaningless actions of his servants and feels angry with you when you tell a white lie, but he doesn't feel compelled to help a dying child. But he has a divine plan! I tell you what. He's emotionally crippled and there is really no point in trying to explain his intentions and actions by means of meatphors from the world of humans.

    It would be best for you, Gumby, if you'd come face to face with reality and stop fooling yourself. You're leading a miserable existence, and it will dawn on you sooner or later.

    Oh pleeaase Schizm. This is so profoundly pathetic. Coming to face with reality is something you have to work on. Get some feedback from other posters, Schizm.

    May Jehovah bless you with a more coherent vision of his creation,

    Pole

  • Pole
    Pole

    I'm quoting myself:

    As we waste our time arguing over this fallacious bulshit, hundreds of children are starving to death. Of course at the very same moment God is sitting on the galactic clouds picking his nose as his heart is being "filled with joy by those who serve him". Yeah, if he exists then he must be the greatest psychopath of the Universe. He derives pleasure from the meaningless actions of his servants and feels angry with you when you tell a white lie, but he doesn't feel compelled to help a dying child. But he has a divine plan! I tell you what. He's emotionally crippled and there is really no point in trying to explain his intentions and actions by means of meatphors from the world of humans.

    I've re-read my post and thought some believers might find it offensive. Sorry if that's the case. I only meant the metaphorical God. That is to say if someone is using complex metaphors to explain the metaphysical aspects of some of the hard facts we observe in the real world I simply fail to see any psychological validity of such arguments. You can't possibly imagine an emotionally stable human parent having as much power as God does (if you believe he exists) and doing so little. That's why I think it is futile to describe God as a loving parent. Either he's psychologically totally different from the average human (hence the pathology by human standards) or he doesn't exist. I believe the latter is the case.

    Peace,

    Pole

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Pole said:

    : That's why I think it is futile to describe God as a loving parent. Either he's psychologically totally different from the average human (hence the pathology by human standards) or he doesn't exist. I believe the latter is the case.

    Precisely why I don't believe that the Christian God exists. Perhaps a supreme designer of some sort, but certainly not a pathological, uncaring killer.

    AlanF

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