Avenger, nice to see you sweetie.
Wonder if Fox News will be covering this. I'm sure Hannity has a great debate for this gem.
sKally
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Avenger, nice to see you sweetie.
Wonder if Fox News will be covering this. I'm sure Hannity has a great debate for this gem.
sKally
Is Monsanto actually a fully US owned company? I ask because many chemical and genetic alterations in produce come from other countries. This is so horrid! I hope everyone plans to contact their local AG-services and senators to get people aware of this situation. For Texans the senators are Hutchinson and Cornyn. AG extension services are listed in your phone books. Other AG states should have similar listings.
But I still wonder about this. I know that in the US I can get old variety of seeds to grow tomatoes and carrots and some other produce. Even older watermelon varieties directly from farmers who farm those and save the seeds. Of course this is a very small group and no one is claiming ownership of seed rights (god that sounds weird).
Absolutely surreal, illegal to plant your own fucking seeds from your own fucking crops that you harvested.
Like I said, I don't think this is real, it definately hasn't been on the BBC.
Monsanto, a Delaware corporation based in St. Louis, Missouri. Here is a link to the company site which lists the board members http://monsanto.com/monsanto/layout/about_us/board.asp
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Satanus, I still can't believe this is true, even the UK doesn't subscribe to this, surely any other country would also tell them to go fuck themselves.
And don't forget the Iraqis live in a desert - they import a lot of their food, one reason I was apalled at the thread on "the British should not have provided food for oil" AKA "lets let the iraqis die"
I found another seemingly good site that says that the farmers' own traditional seed would not be on the protected list. So, the forced destruction of the farmers' own seeds seems to be an exaggeration in that news article. It appears that monsanto and other companies like syngenta, bayer and dow chemical will have the right to push their products in competition w native ones. This is the same way gm seeds have been pushed in much of the world: china, brazil, canada, england, europe etc.
http://www.cbgnetwork.org/home/Newsletter
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S
Ok, i think i found it. Order 81 prohibits iraqis from using seeds that have any characteristics that are the same as that of seeds on the list. Here is the excerpt:
C. The provisions of paragraphs (A) and (B) of this Chapter shall be also applicable to the following varieties:
1. The varieties which are essentially derived from the protected variety where the protected variety is not itself an essentially derived variety. The variety is considered essentially derived from another variety according to the following criteria;
a) it is predominantly derived from the initial variety, or from a variety that is itself predominantly derived from the initial variety while retaining the expression of the essential characteristics that result from the genotype or combination of genotypes of the initial variety;
b) it is clearly distinguishable from the initial variety; and
c) except for the differences which result from the act of derivation, it conforms to the initial variety in the expression of the essential characteristics that result from the genotype or combination of genotypes of the initial variety. If it is similar to the original variety as for its main properties resulting from the hereditary composite or a group of the hereditary composites for the original variety, except what is related to the differences resulting from the derivation;
2. The varieties which are not clearly distinguishable from the protected variety in accordance with paragraph (B) of Article 4 of this Chapter; and
3. The varieties whose production requires the repeated use of the protected variety.
D. It shall be permissible to obtain the essentially derived varieties as a result of the selection of a natural or induced mutant, or of a somaclonal variant, the selection of a variant individual from plants of the initial variety, backcrossing, or transformation by genetic engineering.
E. The third party's performance of the acts provided in paragraphs (A) and (B) of this Article shall be deemed as an infringement of the rights of the breeder and shall be subject to penalties if the defendant knew, or had reason to know, that the defendant infringed the rights of the breeder.? 66) Chapter Threequater, Article 15 is added to read as follows: ?A. Notwithstanding Article 14 of this Chapter, the breeder's right shall not include the following acts of third parties for personal non-commercial purposes, for purposes of experimentation or education of new varieties. B. Farmers shall be prohibited from re-using seeds of protected varieties or any variety mentioned in items 1 and 2 of paragraph (C) of Article 14 of this Chapter.?
http://www.export.gov/iraq/pdf/cpa_order_81.pdf
The other varieties referred to are those that show similar characteristics to the PVP varieties. If a corporation develops a variety resistant to a particular Iraqi pest, and somewhere in Iraq a farmer is growing another variety that does the same, it?s now illegal for him/her to save that seed. It sounds mad, but it?s happened before. A few years back a corporation called SunGene patented a sunflower variety with a very high oleic acid content. It didn?t just patent the genetic structure though, it patented the characteristic. Subsequently SunGene notified other sunflower breeders that should they develop a variety high in oleic acid with would be considered an infringement of the patent.
http://www.theecologist.co.uk/archive_article.html?article=487&category=86
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sorry this sounds like bull$hit to me...
I hope they can hide seeds away for genetic diversity. Maybe they can do a better job of this than hiding the WMD.