Jersey Boy ... To BE, Or Not To Be Gay

by Taylor S. 14 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Taylor S.
    Taylor S.

    Any Jersey heads out there? Downtown Jersey City here.

    New to this site ... but it's such a God send to realize that I am SO not alone. This is my story ... well, a tiny piece of it anyway.

    Although i was born and raised Jehovah's Witness, it was a slow process of realizing that something just wasn't quite right with it. it started when I was little when I realized that when Armageddon came, we were taught, only Jehovah's Witnesses were gonna be saved while all other people (some deeply religious, good-hearted people) were gonna be destroyed.

    even as a little boy, that notion didn't sit right with me.

    it seemed a little arrogant that we were the only ones who interpreted this ancient text so accurately {a people who were staunchly against higher-education at one point, mind you} ... and everyone else was just, well, good-intentioned but doomed to die by Gods hand. and why would a loving God give us something, a roadmap to salvation, so cryptic that it would lead to countless interpretations making it impossible to be sure who was right?

    then i noticed other discrepancies with JW rhetoric:

    -- they were once staunchly against organ transplants, believing it to be a odd form of cannalisim and therefore against God's law. so if you needed one during that phase of Witness evolution, you were just shit out of luck. then the Governing Body {a small group of men who rule over 6 million JW's worldwide and 1Billion dollars net annual income } changed their mind completely, sixteen years later and now support this life saving development in medical technology. they are still against transfusions though.

    -- they've wrongly predicted the end of this "wicked system of things" (in print) several times in their hundred some-odd year history (1914, 1925, 1975) ... and in the seventies, the WatchTower even printed how many of the faithful were "selling their homes" and devoting all their energies to full-time ministry, commenting how admirable it was for them to do this. However, when the end never came, in the '76 they ate their words:
    "It may be that some who have been serving God have planned their lives according to a mistaken view of just what was to happen on a certain date or in a certain year. They may have, for this reason, put off or neglected things that they otherwise would have cared for. But they have missed the point of the Bibles warnings concerning the end of this system of things, thinking that Bible chronology reveals the specific date." (Watchtower, July 15, 1976, p. 440)


    I questioned the congregation ELDERS about about these miscalculations. their response ... The TRUTH just keeps getting brighter! this rehearsed cop-out was even repeated on the podium one Sunday to a chorus of applause and nodding heads. i didn't believe it for a minute, but being born into a faith makes it difficult to question things too adamantly.

    but a fluctuating viewpoint is not faith ... it's possibly marketing, or PR, or Madison Avenue, but it's certainly not faith.

    In hindsight, growing up JW was a fearful existence. Living under the threat that "Armageddon in near!" has a profound effect on how you live your life and how you plan for your future. Every violent thunderstorm had me wondering, 'Is this it?', as I peeked out the window expecting to see chariots of fire in the sky, with Angels surgically smiting all those who didn't go to the Kingdom Hall three times a weeks and door to door selling WatchTower & Awake magazines at every possible moment.

    and then of course the coming out gay thing ... major drama there. my attraction for men trickled during my early teens, but rushed in like a tsunami in my late teens and washed all my religion away. well not all of it. i retained enough to believe that God was gonna destroy me in the very near future because I liked boys too much. because according to the ELDERS, i couldn't act on this sinful desire ever ever EVER.


    over the years I've learned that you can't take anything for granted. we have to unlearn what's been spoon fed to us ... do our own research ... come to our own conclusions. not that i'm anti-God or religion ... but we have to remember that the notion of Christ was imposed on my slave ancestors { who had their own beliefs which are now long forgotten } by their 'Christian' masters at the end of a whip . this undeniable fact alone screamed for me to examine my beliefs, and to question anything that just didn't seem quite right.

    my mom is still a devout JW and will be till the day she leaves this earth. i've never told her how i feel about the faith i was raised to believe, and she still holds onto the hope that I will one day give up "that lifestyle", as she puts it.

    i doubt i could ever rock her faith and wouldn't want to if i could ... because the one thing i know for sure is that people truly NEED to believe in something.

    i understand that. i respect that.

    faith can be a wonderful thing. but blind faith is for fools and blue-haired old ladies who have no time to entertain the notion that their belief systems have been flawed all along.

    don't wait that long to start questioning things.


    tS

  • Valis
    Valis

    http://groups.msn.com/GayexJehovahsWitnesses

    Here's a link for you if you haven't already found it.

    Welcome to the forum!

  • Taylor S.
    Taylor S.

    VALIS ... thanks for the link ....

    taylorS

  • lonelysheep
    lonelysheep

    Welcome, Taylor. There's a few of us on here from NJ.

    That was one of many things that got under my skin before leaving: the judgement of people. I couldn't bring myself to truly judge, ignore, alienate from gay people. No one in my life now is gay (that I know of ), but I had friends in hs/college who are. That opened my eyes to just how much they judge people who aren't jw's. So, last year, I stopped studying (after 4 yrs) and decided I did not want to get baptized.

    Glad you're here.

    *edited to add: I'm 30 mins from you, btw. And, is that you in your avatar?

  • prophecor
    prophecor

    Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid Lyrics:
    I feel like I could run away
    Looking at a darker day
    Oh I?m pulling the shades away from my eyes
    It?s true the moody manners come and go
    And it?s better that you never know

    Some things are better left unsaid
    Some strings are better left undone
    Some hearts are better left unbroken
    Some lives are better left untouched
    Some lies are better off believed
    Some words are better left unspoken

    My ideas seem to frighten you
    Are you really that afraid to move
    Oh I guess that it?s your right to reason
    I?m still dealing with a force that?s so strong
    The force is stringing us along




    Taylor S, the words to the above song come from a favourite Hall & Oates LP, Big Bam Boom. You may be familliar with them as I see you are from the Pennsylvania-New Jersy area.

    I bring them up as a response to your wishing not to rain down on your mother's parade regarding her belief system, and her having the need to belong to something, even if it's not real.

    Yes, the religion sucks, and some would truly do better on the inside, in a cocoon of complacency than to have their entire world rocked to its foundations, only to try and get their world repaired, which for some of us comes at a great expense.

    In fact, my wife and I sat back and watched the movie "187" , just last night and the topic of a Phyrric Victory came up as a key point of light in the movie.

    A Phyrric Victory was colourfully described as a fight that one wins, but at such an astronomical cost, that it's often counted as a loss due to the fact that what was gained in no way compensates for what was lost in the first place.

    I no longer spill my information to those for whom it would do them no long lasting good, much like Jesus instructing his disciples not to cast their pearls before swine, as they could never have any appreciation for what treasures you would be bestowing on them. So in that regard, I choose to remain silent to some, while with others I eagerly share.

    Your story was compelling, your experience rings familliar regarding how and why you once believed as you do. You will be a great asset to the community here, and I would like to extend a warm welcome to you.

    Arthur

  • clementine
    clementine

    welcome on the board!! i hope you'll enjoy this site and remember... you REALLY are not so alone!! :-))

  • Aude_Sapere
    Aude_Sapere

    Hi TaylorS -

    Welcome to the Board!

    I grew up in Bergen County NJ. Now living in Southern California.

    Nice to have you join our not-so-little group...!!

    -Aude.

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    Hey...

    I've lived in northern NJ for about 3.5 years now (upper Passaic County).

    Maybe there are enough of us here now to have a North Jersey Apostofest?

  • Aude_Sapere
    Aude_Sapere

    If there was an apostafest in Northern NJ, I'd fly out there. Count on it!

    (In the meantime, I'm hoping there will be one in SoCal)

    -Aude.

  • Rabbit
    Rabbit

    Taylor...Welcome from Texas. The judgments I was expected to believe in, against my friends during my 35 years as a JW make me sick now. (and I followed them...)

    Never again! Congratulations for getting out.

    Rabbit

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