by ISP 33 Replies latest jw friends
Sam, so true. We live in such a different world than the early Christians. The funny thing to me is: JW's DO change with the world, just about 30 to 50 years behind the rest of the western world.
Btw, ISP...
Why do elders come unnanounced?
Did you mean to post this in Englishmans "orgasm" thread?
Here is the theory and instruction from the "slave":
*** w96 3/15 24 How Christian Shepherds Serve You ***
Before making a shepherding call, one elder phones and says, “I call on one family each month. Can I visit you for an hour or so sometime next month? When would this suit you?”
Suggestions for Shepherding Calls
• Make an appointment: It is usually good to make an appointment. If the elder plans to handle a serious problem, it would be proper to inform the publisher of this beforehand.(My comments: what a joke!)
Supposedly, if they have tried to call several times and/or left messages and the person doesn't call back to make an appointment, they feel they can "drop by unannounced."
If the body of elders have reason to believe that a judicial hearing may be warranted, they will continue to pursue meeting with the person even if the "accused" avoids them. This is called sending out 2 elders on a "fact-finding" mission. Supposedly, they should have enough information already to do so.
Just tell them it is inconvenient and say you will call them when it is convenient. I would never let them in if they drop by unannounced.
For me the pertinent question is:
How do elders "come" at all?
Tracy
Tracy, I think it is a CYA measure for the next CO visit.
They probably find by experience that when they give some warning and arrange things it gives people time to arrange to not be there
oh my t41
you are too cute
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G'day ISP,
I was interested in this:
like these guys never make appointments. Just stroll up when it suits them and not youI thought this only happened in the land of Oz. You mean it happens in other places too? Previously I'd considered it a cultural thing, but if it's happening all over, then I'm changing my mind...they are just plain inconsiderate.
I take the point about the field service. Everything is 'arranged' to suit them, never considering the feelings or circumstances of those they surprise by a home visit.
Cheers,
Ozzie
"You can know the law by heart, without knowing the heart of it"
Philip Yancey, What's So Amazing About Grace?
Its simple folks.
Its called the element of surprise. They figure, if they don't know your coming, you cant be prepared and have your "weapons" drawn and "loaded". they do. they fire, your helpless. see...if the good old boys dont have the slight upper hand, then they wont confront you. they are cowards of a sort, each and every one of them. thats why they show up unannounced. now, you'll find that when that are "announced", and tell you they're coming, then its cause it ain't all that serious, and maybe just a "sheparding call".
But just try to question a society teaching verses a biblical one, and the old....ding dong, door bell will be ringing before you know it.
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Zev
The greatest consistancy of the WTBTS is their INconsistancy.
Another reason they come announced is that they sometimes just plan these visits "off the cuff" due to a lack of having anything better to do and just need to kill some time. I.E. Piss poor planning. This happened to me, but it will be the last time. They will have to call or they will be told to leave.........
FEELIN BEROEAN "Just making sure!"
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NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
pythonlike hugs
Joel
