Schwarzenegger won't "be back"....betcha!

by Frannie Banannie 12 Replies latest social current

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050222/ap_on_re_us/schwarzenegger_women_1

    U.S. National - AP
    AP Schwarzenegger Remarks on Women Anger Many
    Tue Feb 22, 1:39 PM ET

    By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer

    SAN FRANCISCO - Could Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ( news - web sites ) have another "woman problem" on his hands? Schwarzenegger made headlines in recent months by deriding political opponents as "girlie men" and ridiculing a group of nurses at a women's conference. Now, an effort to paint the state's teachers as little more than a balky special interest group has angered many critics, who have begun to question why constituencies dominated by women have been subjected to such tough talk.


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    "He behaves like an arrogant patriarch with respect to women's occupations," said Rose Ann De Moro, executive director of the California Nurses Association. "Nurses, teachers, home health workers ? it's vulgar how he's run roughshod over them. He's arrogant, and he's a bully."

    As a candidate, Schwarzenegger was dogged by allegations that he had groped and humiliated women on movie sets. Since then, he has won over many skeptics by appointing women to key staff positions and relying on his wife, journalist and Democrat Maria Shriver, as his closest adviser.

    But recently, as he has pressed for budget cuts and a broad package of government reform proposals, some of his turbocharged rhetoric has opened him to charges that his views on women are demeaning and macho.

    In December, a small group of nurses gathered at a state women's conference to protest Schwarzenegger's decision to side with hospitals and delay changes to the state's nurse-to-patient ratio. With Shriver in the audience, Schwarzenegger responded to the protesters by saying, "The special interests don't like me in Sacramento because I am always kicking their butts."

    The nurses union denounced his comment, and the attacks on the governor have only escalated since.

    "The arrogance of taking on teachers, nurses and other professions where women are underpaid, overworked and vital to society is beyond the pale," said Jamie Court, president of the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights and a frequent Schwarzenegger critic. "But Arnold is someone who treats women as objects, so it's natural for him to have a tendency to disregard and devalue professions that are made up of women."

    The California Teachers Association and the California Nurses Association recently showed a willingness to take on the governor, staging protests and buying ads critical of his policies and proposals.

    Schwarzenegger has denounced teachers for blocking improvements to education and has made merit-based pay for teachers a centerpiece of his government reform plan.

    The teachers union is running radio commercials statewide criticizing the governor's proposals. Top officials of the organization, as well as some school administrators, also have accused Schwarzenegger of reneging on a promise to deliver $2 billion in revenue to schools.

    The nurses uinon has taken out full-page newspaper ads suggesting Schwarzenegger's corporate campaign donors are the real special interests.

    Last week, some 300 nurses and their supporters disrupted a movie premiere in Sacramento, booing Schwarzenegger as he posed with actors Vince Vaughn and The Rock.

    "A mass movement is developing, and it's fascinating to see women coming together," DeMoro of the nurses union said.

    Schwarzenegger supporters dismiss the notion that either his rhetoric or his reform efforts are overly harsh toward women or women's professions. Instead, they accuse unions of using the controversies to generate publicity.

    "To say that women voters perceive Arnold Schwarzenegger as a bully because he's taking on a reform agenda belittles women," said Karen Hanretty, a spokeswoman for the California Republican Party.

    "This is not about any individual profession. It's about exposing organized labor unions who have used their influence and set policies that have created multibillion-dollar deficits both statewide and nationally."

    Political analyst Tony Quinn said the danger for Schwarzenegger lies in the widespread public fondness for teachers and nurses.

    "Their strength lies in the fact that people genuinely like their teachers and like nurses, even if they don't necessarily like their union," Quinn said.

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    I've got 5 bucks says he's elected again!

  • Golf
    Golf

    Frannie, what's the stakes? Guys like him stay in. He had this same attitude and behavior before running for governor. Are you familiar with his family background?

    We had a dictator for 22 years in our community. The entire system is one big farce. This is no quessing game for me.


    Guest77

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    Why wait for an election? Why don't they just do what they did to his predecessor i.e. get a petition to have a vote of no confidence, where the incumbent must receive more than 50% of the vote to stay in, but any other contendors only need to be the best of the rest. I really think Gary Coleman would be a great governor.

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie
    I've got 5 bucks says he's elected again!

    Mkr, I gotcher 5 bucks!

    Frannie, what's the stakes? Guys like him stay in. He had this same attitude and behavior before running for governor. Are you familiar with his family background?

    We had a dictator for 22 years in our community. The entire system is one big farce. This is no quessing game for me.

    Golf, I dunno.....but he probably wasn't as openly denigrating during his campaign as he is now. The nurses, teachers, etc. are actually launching anti-Schwarzenegger campaigns now. As for yall having a dictator for 22 years in your community, didn't Florida also have a problem with their vote counting during the previous Presidential election?

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie
    Why wait for an election? Why don't they just do what they did to his predecessor i.e. get a petition to have a vote of no confidence, where the incumbent must receive more than 50% of the vote to stay in, but any other contendors only need to be the best of the rest. I really think Gary Coleman would be a great governor.

    Fine with me, FD....why do you think Gary Coleman would be a great governor, tho?

  • under74
    under74
    Why wait for an election? Why don't they just do what they did to his predecessor i.e. get a petition to have a vote of no confidence...



    There's actually some labor groups trying to do that right now. I live in CA for school but do my voting in Washington State. California is a weird place...I don't think even if I stayed on here I'd ever really get used to it.

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz

    The mentioned groups *are* a special interest. Doesn't mean they are wrong or right, just means they have a specific agenda. He said he'd be hard on special interests up front and is just following through.

    Don't know about you, but my kids went through the public education system in Ca. and I'm not impressed. Standards have fallen in direct proportion to the power of the teachers union. Schools should be privatized and be done with it. Just had to raise holy hell when my son came home and told me that I was a racist because I'm a Christian. Asked him why he said that, and his teacher had criticized him for his faith. If you saw a mushroom cloud over the Bay Area, it was my reaction.

    Jeannie

  • whyamihere
    whyamihere

    He can grab my ass anytime!

    Brooke

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek
    Fine with me, FD....why do you think Gary Coleman would be a great governor, tho?

    What you talkin' bout Frannie? Come on, you know he'd be great.

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