Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

konceptual99

So, I have been badgered recently to do some kind of family study by my wife. Thanks to tv.jw.org I now have a really easy tool to use that not only passes this time but actually makes them question the organisation.

Our sessions skipping through the delights of the monthly broadcast have been very interesting. For example:

derision at the wooden delivery of the GB
laughter at Stephen Lett and his crazy eyes
questioning around Morris and his anti-education rant
3 minutes of rolling around, belly laughs at the trolley song
questioning of why anyone would want to listen to the tedious morning worship broadcasts, let alone sit through them in person
discussion about how prominent the GB have made themselves in the past 5 years
discussion about the appropriateness and point of wearing a Sophia and Caleb pin on the ministry as opposed to one featuring some Disney or Marvel character. (see Mrs. Antony Morris at around 23:10 in this months joy fest)

The great thing about these broadcasts is that they show the GB as people with little to recommend respect. In our house, reverence and unfettered respect for the hierarchy of the org has never been commonplace, even when I was mentally fully paid up, so it's quite natural to laugh at some of the ridiculous things presented.

It's tough treading a line on these sorts of things but tv.jw.org has been a great tool in helping my kids see that the GB and their ramblings are pretty ridiculous. Food at the proper time indeed.

freemindfade

Yes. They have been exposed to the followers. At first everyone was excited and when they joked on staged they laughed. But as time goes on they are going to be seen as more and more wacky. Although some folks like my mom. A die hard. See everything no matter how bad as point for the org not against. See they are just like us normal and quirky. Barf

pbrow

....."now believes in evolution.... how sad"..

My 13 year old laughed at that.

What a fucktard....

On a side note.. I have seen a few of these no talent ass clowns wearing rings (not wedding bands) ... Bethel fashion trend???

pbrow

All for show

Good for you! I feel like I score a little victory every time something new and stupid is said on the broadcast. My husband is so irritated by the money and time spent making the trolley video....

can someone get screen shots of the rings? Herd and his helper had one and so does Morris and Lett. Herd had it on his right pinky, his helper had a similar one on his right ring finger. Is it like a brothers of Christ ring, haha?

OneEyedJoe

What a loving provision it is for these men to wear many rings. Just like god allowed isrealites of little means to offer a dove as a sacrifice, so too does the GB allow us to kiss their rings instead of their asses.

KateWild

For those that are still in and awake....is jw.TV really the best thing for young children? Is waking them up and teaching them to live double lives really the wise choice?

I firmly believe that kids need to see integrity and parents standing up for what is right. We could end up breeding a whole load of fake elders that don't believe in WT at all but just playing the company game and getting privileges.

This sort of lifestyle is one that I don't condone. We need to get our children out not teach them how to get away with waking up and staying in.

Kate xx

KiddingMe

Konceptual99, I'm thinking along the same lines. I've been dreading every time my husband wants to view these broadcasts for family worship. Last week we watched Morris rant on higher education. I was anxious about how it would go over but we had a similar response.

Like you, I'm going to embrace it and use it to my advantage, especially after seeing the cart video. My husband suggested we watch another broadcast this week. So I asked if the February broadcast is out yet? I'm uncomfortable with the application for college vs pioneer scene. But I'll make some type of comment or joke about the children living and depending on us the rest of their life while pioneering. I don't think my husband or the kids will like that thought.

There is a fine line working through this. Sometimes less is more, so I will try to keep my comments to a minimum, plus I don't want to get carried away and say something way off. I'll try to be selective on the best broadcast to bring out the GB weirdness or unrealistic themes. I think even at a certain point, I will point out how it feels like we've taken most our focus off of the bible and onto the GB or tv.jw, then I'll see how that goes.

konceptual99

Come on Kate... "wise choice"... you sound like a WT ;-)

Seriously though, I can see your point but you have to remember it's not as easy as simply saying "stand up for what's right". I am not going to hijack my own thread to get into to a conversation about how I choose to fade (happy to do that on another thread though) but to suggest that the purpose is to wake up and stay in is missing the point.

One of the things I wish to have is kids that can think for themselves, can take an objective approach and are not against the WTS just because daddy says they are morons. The latter is just as pointless as being a Witness just 'cos your parents and friends are. In the world of two evils, it is very easy for me to plop JW TV on and we can all snigger as a family rather than study for the meeting. It's just as relevant as working through things like creation and the flood, planting seeds that permit them to question things in their own mind. It's just as relevant IMHO as showing them points in the Bible about idol worship whilst seeing the GB have their photos taken with all and sundry.

Aspects of JW TV presents the most shallow Witness behaviour as normal. My kids are seeing that for themselves and they can see the idiocy of it. For reference, there was a thread around about how a guy used his family study to wake his family up. I see no difference.

konceptual99

Indeed kiddingme...

There is a section we skipped this time on elderly ones. This is perfect for bringing out points about how these ones were told the end was coming over and over again.

Oubliette

AFS: can someone get screen shots of the rings?

How to Wear a Pinkie Ring, by Stephen Lett, Governing Body Member

Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

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