apostate questions

by stevenyc 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  stevenyc

  Nathan,

  corruption gladly accepted.

  steve.
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  peacefulpete

  someone once said, " Examinations are formidable even to the best prepared, for the greatest fool may ask more than the wisest man can answer."

  Questions make us think. We either welcome that or not.

  Questions are viewed as either challenging or threatening, depending upon the assuredness of the one questioned. The completly deluded rarely run from a debate, it is those that are aware of the arbitrariness of their beliefs that respond with fear and anger.

  Before trying to talk to a JW it may be best to have them first acknowledge this truth. Then ask the question, they may see the response in themselves, and this is the first step to opening the mind.
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  Mr. Kim

  A apostate question is ANY question that would cause a JW and the R&F to honestly think for themselves.........
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  frankiespeakin

  The term apostate as used in the question: "That is an apostate question" is just one of those typical stop thought words used in mind control cults. The very word apostate in the JW vocabulary is a powerful stop thinking word that conjures up in the mind frightening emotions relating to Satan and the demons, death and destruction, filth and lies. No rational thought just run and hide from those that have the labeled pinned on them.
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  jeanniebeanz

  Steven,

  When the 'brothers' came to my home after I had been disfellowshipped and were trying to get me to go back, I asked about the example of Luke 6:37 and asked how, in light of this scripture they could practice shunning.

  I was told that this was apostate reasoning and that was a scripture that apostates take out of context.

  I said, ok, what about the example of the woman brought before Jesus that the mob wanted to kill because she had been caught with a man who was not her husband. He told them that the person who throws the first stone would have to be without sin. In effect he told them that no human had the right to judge. This was in harmony with Luke 6:37, and I again asked them how these two scriptures could be taken to mean anything different than what they said.

  I was told that, again, this scripture was use to back apostate reasoning, and that the later example was probably added to the bible to support a watering down of the 'truth'.

  Such utter bullsh**.

  So to answer your question, Steven, any question, which exposes one of their false doctrines, is considered an apostate question. The reason is that these questions lead to people leaving because they make it obvious that the Faithful and Discreet Slave in Brooklyn is not Faithful, Discreet, *or* in Brooklyn.

  Jeannie
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  Honesty

  Do you believe the Governing Body is the Faithful Discreet Slave?

  Oh... that's not an apostate question. It's the loyalty question to determine if you are apostate. Sorry.
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  stevenyc

  Thank you Honesty.

  I disagree, if asked to the elders it would be.....

  Of course, questioning the unquestionable.

  steve

  Ps these's always an exception to the rule.
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  Quotes

  jeanniebeanz, you should have asked those elders "Wow, you sure seem to know a lot about Apostates!! How did you become so knowledgable about apostates, have you been reading Apostate literature?"

  As for the thread, I think this has the makings of a "Jeff Foxworthy" bit:

  • If you have a question, for which the only possible answer make the WT look bad.... you may have an apostate question.
  • If you have a question, which draws parallels between WT and the other religions of "Babyon the Great" ... you may have an apostate question
  • If your question involves the safety of children, and therefore the answer "wait on Jehovah" is completely innapropriate.... you have probably found yourself an apostate question
  • If you have been reading the bible without WT publications, and you are now confused on some WT doctrines... you likely have created an apostate question.
  • If you want to ask something that has *NOT* already been printed in small typeface on the footer of a WT publication... you want to ask an apostate question
  • If the only obvious answer for a JW is the cop-out "I don't know what to think about that".... you have found an apostate question
  • if your question makes a governing body member think, and then produce no response even after a year of waiting for a promised response... you have got yourself and apostate question

  ~Quotes, of the "May be a Redneck" class
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  AlanF

  Good discussion! It reminded me of another telling conversation I had with my mother, shortly after my stepdad told me about the lack of response to my letter due to its containing "apostate questions". Because of this statement that I was asking "apostate questions", my mother complained about my doing so. I asked her how a sincerely asked question, no matter what it was, could be "apostate". She couldn't answer. Then I said, "Mom, is it possible to be an apostate if you only speak the truth?" She said, "I refuse to answer." I asked why. "Because I can see where you're going with that question." I was extremely disappointed in that answer, for obvious reasons. It gradually dawned on me that most JWs are exactly the same way -- they know that some of the Society's teachings are nonsense, but refuse to take the obvious step of doing something about it. So they pretend to themselves not to have seen such questions. A completely Orwellian response -- "doublethink", "crimestop", and all that.

  AlanF
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  rebel8

  Valis, It is interesting that the word hypocrite is replaced w/apostate in NWT. Out of curiosity, I checked to see what other bibles say.