The Watchtower's Bribery Dilemma ( April 1 '05 Watchtower)

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  • ezekiel3
    ezekiel3

    My comments in red.

    THE WATCHTOWER ? APRIL 1, 2005 Page 29 Questions From Readers

    Should a Christian give a government employee a tip or a gift for his services, or would that be viewed as bribery?

    Wherever they live, Christians seek to exercise practical wisdom in dealing with local situations, remembering that what is acceptable and legal in one land may be totally unacceptable and illegal in another. (Proverbs 2:6-9) Of course, a Christian should always bear in mind that anyone who wants to be "a guest in [Jehovah's] tent" must shun bribery. -Psalm 15:1, 5; Proverbs 17:23.

    What is bribery? According to The World Book Encyclopedia, "bribery means giving or offering something of value to a ... person in a position of public trust, who in return violates his or her duty or the law in order to benefit the giver." Thus, regardless of where one lives, it is bribery to give money or a gift to a judge or a police officer to pervert justice or to an inspector to turn a blind eye to a defect or a violation. It is also bribery to use a gift to receive preferential treatment (SEE BELOW), such as getting moved forward on a waiting list or bypassing others in line. Such a course would also betray a lack of love.?Matthew 7:12; 22:39.

    But is it bribery to give a gift or a tip to, say, a public servant in order to obtain a legitimate service or to avoid unfair treatment? For example, in some lands officials may be unwilling to enroll children in school, admit a person into a hospital, or stamp immigration documents until they receive a tip. Or they may procrastinate in processing applications to renew licenses and permits.(SEE ABOVE FOR "PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT")

    Tipping practices and the general attitude toward them vary from one place to another. Where such payments are customary or expected, some Christians may feel that within the law, they are not violating Bible principles when they tip an official to perform his duty. In some lands people may even view such payments as a gift to supplement a public employee's otherwise low income. Keep in mind that there is a difference between extending a gift for a legitimate service and offering a bribe for an unlawful favor.

    On the other hand, when making legitimate requests, some of Jehovah's Witnesses have declined to give tips to inspectors, customs officials, or others even where such gift-giving is routine. Because the Witnesses are known locally both for taking this conscientious stand and for their honesty, they sometimes receive treatment that most people get only through a payment?Proverbs 10:9; Matthew 5:16.

    In summary, each servant of Jehovah must decide for himself whether he will extend a tip to receive a legitimate service or to avoid unfair treatment. Above all, he should pursue a course that leaves him with a good conscience, that brings no reproach on Jehovah's name, and that does not stumble others. -Matthew 6:9; 1 Corinthians 10:31-33; 2 Corinthians 6:3; 1 Timothy 1:5.

  • Pole
    Pole
    AT SOME Polish colleges, students customarily collect money to buy gifts for their teachers, hoping to get better grades on their exams. No wonder a young Christian named Katarzyna faced a difficult situation. "Shall I give money or not?" she wondered. Her peers reasoned: "It is a common custom. You risk nothing, but you can gain a lot, so why do you have doubts?"

    Some students at some Polish colleges, blah blah blah. What Polish colleges?

    "Gifts for their teachers, hoping to get better grades on their exams"? Yeah like getting a degree for a bar of chocolate and a bunch of flowers?

    Come on folks, it's a classic strawman. I work as an academic teacher and there is no custom like that. If it happens, it can get you in trouble especially if you accept even a symbolic a gift before an exam, etc. And unless it's a gift worth a few thousand dollars it won't have any influence on the teacher's decisions. Poland may have a rate of corruption higher than in some Western countries (although I'm not so sure of it) but is not Middle East.

    Some accused Katarzyna of selfishness and an antisocial attitude. "I still do not get along well with some of them," she says.

    Oh yeah poor Katarzyna. I can see the opression and the accusations flying at her. I'm sure she takes equal pride in being a No-Christmas/No-birthday martyr.

    "On the other hand, many respect my point of view, which makes me glad."

    Really? So she's saying some assholes accused her while others did not? What a profound sociological observation! This can only happen in such a lousy post-communist country as Poland where the moral standards are really low.

    Katarzyna became known as one of Jehovah?s Witnesses, who observe Bible principles in everyday life.

    So that's the point of this pamphlet? Pick a non-existing moral dillema, blow it out of proportions and show how outstandingly righteous Jehovah's Witnesses' position is?

    And then, what metatron said - when it comes to real issues, JWs are often told to be lying and cynical.

    Pole

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Very interesting... I wonder how the WTS would explain the fact that when they wanted to build the Patterson facility they were able to get all of the government approvals they needed after giving the city a shinny new fire truck.

  • lamb_neo
    lamb_neo

    What about the practice in Mexico in '70 years? They were bribing military officials to get a military card saing that they attemded military service. Ray Franz says more in CoC about this. It was done under the GB blessing.

  • catchthis
    catchthis
    I wonder how the WTS would explain the fact that when they wanted to build the Patterson facility they were able to get all of the government approvals they needed after giving the city a shinny new fire truck.

    Actually, the reason for them buying the Patterson FD a new truck was because of the population increase that Patterson brought along with its building structures. The existing fire truck(s) were not able to provide enough water coverage to put out any possible future fires that the complex may have had. The town told them that the complex buildout would not be able to go forward without the purchase of a new farther reaching water truck. As any good corporation with a lot of money would do, they bought them the truck that they needed. Corporate campuses such as Microsoft and Motorola would have done the same thing.

  • BluesBrother
  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    Corporate campuses such as Microsoft and Motorola would have done the same thing.

    I don't know catchthis - I never heard of such a thing - besides Motorola and Microsoft would bring jobs and taxes to the community - the Patterson facilty brought it's own help with no money to spend in the community, no taxes to pay, no jobs to benefit the community -

    I think the comparison is weak.

    Jeff

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