What is the bible for?

by Smoky 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • Spook
    Spook

    The bible, like other religious texts, contains some valuable wisdom about human character.

    Keep in mind that (and this may sound odd) there is no "bible." It is a selection from a much larger source of holy writings, cultural documents, law accounts, folk lore, and mythology. These in turn demonstrate heritage from previous documents.

    The development of the human relationship to the infinite can seen as progressing from early anthropomorphic deities to Hellenistic and abstract God's, with representative saviours that are common to many religions.

    It's a valuable book to be learned from and contemplated. It is a terrible book to take literally, as evidenced by thousands of years of warfare, murder, and intolerance from those who put too much stock in their own perspective on it.

    What it means for the future? If people can deal with reality, and let go of cultural escapism at the pressure of globalization, then the last great contemporary hurdle is getting past Zionism and Millenialism. Many good sources document the marginalization of a cultural group (those who feel they don't fit it) with apocolyptic thinking and agendas.

    For the world to survive, we have to 'get it' that the world must survive. As repetitive as that seems, the pressure is to live into a socially constructed la-la land that excuses one from all responsibility.

    I recommend and aspire to the path of Ghandi - find the good in all religions.

    Or take the Zen path, that's great!

    1. Accept and promote the good that is.

    2. Create the good that is not yet.

    3. Prevent the bad that is not yet.

    4. Do not support the bad that is.

    I go on and on.

    Best wishes,

    Spook

  • tata
    tata

    For not enjoy our life to fulness and to think that we are not important, like the bible said we are only dust...

  • MAHABA
    MAHABA

    gathering together "apostate& related" in the XXIst century on this newsgroup.

    "And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the JWDF."

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    Dear Smokey, I agree with Java; what is happening is inner wisdom speaking.

    The Bible reveals and upholds a very tiny and limited interpretation of our Source and Sustenance. To no longer have "faith", to no longer give credit for the infinite expression of life to a foolish tribal deity is to honor the true God rather than belittle and diminish God as the Bible and it's followers so unabashedly do.

    So, I applaud your vision. We can at first feel uneasy to question and turn from the tiny anthropomorphic deities we were raised with; but the infinite expression of life does not coincide with a finite god. Why everyone can not readily see this, shows how easily programed and influenced we are and how mind numbing religion can be. We would all too often rather hold on to our cherished Jesus/Jehovah/Allah than open our eyes and see.

    Congratulations.


    j

  • FMZ
    FMZ

    It confuses me at times too, so the only part I feel the need to live by currently, is where we are told to love God completely (God... not Jehovah / Yahweh), and to love our neighbor as ourselves.

    That is what the Bible is to me.

    FMZ

  • trevor
    trevor
    It's a valuable book to be learned from and contemplated. It is a terrible book to take literally, as evidenced by thousands of years of warfare, murder, and intolerance from those who put too much stock in their own perspective on it.

    I think spook summed it up in the above quote.

    The Bible is an account of mankinds struggle to make sense of existence and give hope for the future that takes us beyond our obvious mortality. It also demonstrates mans attempt to gain power and control over others through fear and false promises. It states that 'sheep like' people are desirable!

    I wonder if the JW cult gets its ideas from the bible?

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    IMO....and I stress any theories about the bible are opinions, not facts...the Bible is a wonderful and mysterious work of literature that has been abused and misinterpreted throughout time. I believe there are always evil humans who will use whatever tool they can to oppress and control the masses. If we didn't have the Bible, it would have been something else.

  • Gill
    Gill

    The Bible is a man made measuring stick for beating other people up with. IMO of course.

  • darkuncle29
    darkuncle29

    Welcome to the "Out side of the Box". It is kind of interesting to go back and forth, now that you know you can escape it--just for the sake of exploring the viewpoints from different angles.

    As for the Babble and faith being "Evil", in themselves they are not, but when humans who are inclined to be evil get ahold of these tools, they can be perverted to do immense harm. That sentence is kinda funny; I do not mean that all humans are inclined to evil, I just mean that those who are nasty can really muck things up for the rest of us.

  • lonelysheep
    lonelysheep

    The book to judge others by!

    Religion taught me that.

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