Interesting IM chat with coworker, taking CoC into work for her tomorrow

by DanTheMan 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    I've sort of known that she had some JW connections, but I had never broached the subject with her as the timing never was right. Well, today I finally managed to work it in, after hearing her talking on the phone with somebody about the Memorial. I sent her an IM not knowing quite how she would respond, but it actually turned out pretty well:

    ...

    me: did you know that I was a JW for 10 years?

    Her: well i remember you saying you were at one time

    me: were you raised in it?

    Her: yep all my life, you?

    Me: n

    me: converted back when I was 22

    her: oh, well why did you quit

    me: difficult to give a short answer there

    her: i bet

    me: blood issue really bothered me, didn't know that at one time organ transplants were banned using the same rationale, only later they got ?new light? about it

    me: hated going d2d feeling like people's lives were in my hands

    me: that ?real soon now? God is going to kill the 99.9% of humanity that isn't JW

    me: their history of false predictions

    her: i understand the blood thing, my son had to have it. Your 'real soon now' comment is funny

    me: you know the drill

    me: they've been saying ?real soon now? for over 100 years

    me: kinda loses its impact

    her: yeah. Nothing is perfect, but got the most part i do believe it more than i would believe any other religious viewpoint

    me: best thing I ever did though was read Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz

    her: whats that all about

    me: can't recommend the book highly enough for anybody who has ever had any connection with JW's

    me: Ray Franz ? former governing body

    her: it talks about that religion

    me: DF'd back in 1981

    her: well why us ut the best thing you couldve done

    me: well, I think that the JW religion makes people miserable

    her: i dont think so, what does the book say about that

    me: and I was very depressed and didn't know why, and Ray really cuts right to the heart of the matter

    me: I can loan you the book if you're interested

    her: yeah, i would like to see it

    ...

    I don't know if she was ever baptized. She has three kids, don't know if she was ever married to their father but she isn't married now. I don't think she is DF'd. The thing is, is that she is very cool-headed person, the moment that I were to ever sound outraged or vitriolic towards the organization is the day that she will be like ?um, ok, well, talk to ya later? and that would be it, which is exactly what I don't want to happen. I don't know that Ray's book will affect her, as, well, if you knew her, you'd understand. She does what she wants to do, is not emotional at all, and isn't one to really reason on things in depth.

    Wish me luck!

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    When one door closes another opens!

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    keep us updated. very interesting.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    lol @ purps

    no, it's nothing like that at all. She likes gangsta types. I have a running joke with her where I've made up this story about my being an up-and-coming rapper and my shootouts with 50 Cent, she gets a good laugh out of it.

  • hubert
    hubert

    I'm reading "C of C "right now, at work. I think it would be a great help to see through the "hogwash" of the Watchtower printing company, especially for someone who is a j.w., which I never was.

    Sounds like you are doing a good job. You are on the right track.

    Good luck

    Hubert

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    Dan you are the Man! I hope this goes well. Allowing someone to see all sides of an argument and make an informed decision feels so good. Hopefully she'll thank you one day.

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    wowowowowowowowowo!!

    I made junior member. Finally.

    Sorry Dan.

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    Aw Oh. Should we tell TheListener that after making Junior Member you can't leave JWD and keep us as friends? That you have to make 10 posts a month?

    Didn't read the fine print again?

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    Are you able to "count time" when you informal witness through IM? Also, be sure to count any placements.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    She took the book, and she seemed excited to read it! I was afraid that maybe she would change her mind after attending the Memorial last night. I pointed out that the book is a little dry in the beginning, but starting with the chapter titled "Tradition and Legalism" that it gets very interesting. She asked if she could keep it for the weekend, I told her to keep it as long as she wants. Sweeeeeet!

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